I never thought the day would come, but I feel a bit sorry for a Man Utd manager

[Brentwood]

Moyes looks an absolute wreck

Can anyone remind me of an incident involving him and Arsenal to make me revel in his misery?

[PSRB]

only knows one way to change a game and that's to go defensive and to protect what he has.

[Curly]

On what? 8?10? million a year
Took over the champions
Was given a load of million to spend
Fúck him!

[Maravilloso Marvo]

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2011/02/01/2333892 /everton-manager-david-moyes-slams-comments-made-by-arsenal (http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2011/02/01/2333892/everton-manager-david-moyes-slams-comments-made-by-arsenal)

[Curly]

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[Curly]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

just not when that manager was Ferguson.

[Doughboy-TSL]

did he do well? Really?

[The JBear]

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

[Brentwood]

His league finishes are OK, and he hasn't had much cash to spend I suppose, but Wenger has had just as negative a budget for years and is roundly ridiculed

2002-03 7th
2003-04 17th
2004-05 4th
2005-06 11th
2006-07 6th
2007-08 5th
2008-09 5th
2009-10 8th
2010-11 7th
2011-12 7th
2012-13 6th

[PSRB]

solid manager that kept them out of trouble on a very limited budget, as I said below though, isn't the most positive manager

[Brentwood]

single trophy

[PSRB]

He took them to an FA Cup final, which unfortunately their star player missed with a cruciate injury

I would say that Everton needed a change, it did feel all a bit stale the last couple of seasons and Martinez (after a shaky start) seems to have the whole place buzzing

[Brentwood]

Mancini. I think they had all won *something* before coming here and going on to win something else

There are lots of managers who have won trophies elsewhere and been a total failure of course

[PSRB]

I'm talking about spurs downwards. Laudrup at Swansea, 'arry at spurs but that's about it

[Brentwood]

then why have they appointed a manager who has won nothing, when history tells you that you have most chance when your manager has some rack record of tangible success ?

[PSRB]

than he is at United, very amusing that they're having a mare though