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Monty91
11-19-2013, 03:14 PM
Most people believe what they’ve been told. They believe that recycling paper is a good thing. Stacking up those newspapers and taking them to the recycling center is supposed to help society by reducing waste, saving trees, and making a more economical product in the end. The problem is, it really does none of that.
Paper comes from trees. Trees are good. That’s hard to dispute. I like trees. Most paper, though, doesn’t come from the majestic oaks and redwoods. You won’t see clearcutting of virgin timber to make greeting cards. Paper is generally made from pulpwood. Pulp comes from softer wood trees like the pine. These trees grow relatively quickly. Longleaf pines grow quickly and easily enough that they are actually farmed. Land is set aside for the growing of pine trees. These trees grow, are cut down for goods, and then more are grown in their place. Trees, like so many of our resources, are renewable.
So, if recycling paper doesn’t actually save the mighty oaks, or the old-grown forests, it must at least be more economical, right? Unfortunately, that’s not so. Paper from trees is a relatively simple process. Recycling adds more steps. Paper must be collected, cleaned, shredded and treated chemically before it can then be turned into a paper that is generally of lesser quality than the original whence it came. The treatment of paper to be turned into more paper uses more chemical processing than the original paper did, and you KNOW that can’t be good for the environment. In the end, the recycled paper simply costs more than paper directly from wood pulp. The only reason the end cost is lower to the consumer is because the government subsidizes its production, passing the additional costs on to the taxpayer
So, recycled paper costs more to produce, causes higher tax rates, increases chemical pollution, and doesn’t save old growth forests. Does it at least help in controlling so-called “greenhouse gasses” to leave trees standing instead of chopping them down? No, it doesn’t.
You see, trees grow and they die. When a tree grows, it turns a load of carbon dioxide into oxygen. Trees aren’t the best at this job, but they aren’t slouches when it comes to oxygen production. After a while, though, the tree reaches a point where it reaches a balance. The cast off leaves or needles fall and begin to decay. This decay process produces carbon dioxide. The amount of carbon dioxide used up by the tree eventually reaches parity with that being thrown off by decaying matter. When the tree dies, the balance shifts completely toward carbon dioxide production. If, however, the tree is turned into other products, the cycle changes.
One of the major complaints about landfills is that the bio-matter in them doesn’t have the chance to break down and decay. If we simply buried the old paper in landfills, then it wouldn’t decay either. This would result in less carbon dioxide being produced. I argue that the BEST place for old paper is at the bottom of a landfill.

Ashberto
11-19-2013, 03:31 PM
So we won't get their response. It should be possible to burn waste paper to make electricity imo, although that's supposed to be bad as well, mmkay?

Maybe we should just KILL EVERYBODY and then the stupid fcking planet will be happy, such is the logical conclusion of Green Misanthropy.

Chief Arrowhead
11-19-2013, 03:32 PM
I think so, I just read that whole thing.

Chief Arrowhead
11-19-2013, 03:33 PM
:fishing:

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 03:36 PM
Also, with the size of the Jag's engine, there's nothing green either.

I dont recycle either, mugs game imo

Monty91
11-19-2013, 03:38 PM
I've come to the conclusion that Spiked is a horrible website, even though it does appeal to my own misanthrophic, contrarian inclinations.

Ashberto
11-19-2013, 03:47 PM
Seems odd to go to all the trouble of getting (finite) metals out of the ground only to put them straight back in covered in goo.

Ashberto
11-19-2013, 03:49 PM
(which I thought was a very poor argument).

delboy ceg
11-19-2013, 03:50 PM

Chief Arrowhead
11-19-2013, 03:56 PM
We get a big green bin where we throw ALL of our recyclables in ... unwashed .. and roll it to the curb once a week to be picked up with the rest of our trash ..er.. rubbish. I don't think I;d comply if I had to separate the metals from the paper from the plastic in separate bins. I've seen folks in other places where they have to rinse out their cans! They wash their trash!

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:01 PM
the periphery of public concern and the occasional opinion column in the Guardian It's because it's an utterly trivial issue that relies solely on the specious invocation of religious savagery to gain traction in the public consciousness.

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 04:06 PM
Not bothering with cans though, especially as my council doesnt.

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 04:08 PM
Not the nice, turn the other cheek, ones either. The nasty *******s

Berni
11-19-2013, 04:10 PM
just shout 'anti-semitism' and everyone will back down.

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:11 PM
conceding that you don't really give a fck. I can't imagine you doing the same for any other comparative issue.

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:16 PM
its not exactly evil is it ? bloody namby pambering

Ashberto
11-19-2013, 04:16 PM
Probably why my f**king sink is blocked. :-(

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:18 PM
specifically anti-semitism.

That's why no-one gives a fck. If it was truly an issue of health or 'mutilation', it would exercise far more people. But everyone knows it's just a convenient beating stick for atheists.

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 04:19 PM
It's an integral part of my chonson

Chief Arrowhead
11-19-2013, 04:20 PM

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:21 PM

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:24 PM

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:25 PM

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 04:27 PM

Berni
11-19-2013, 04:27 PM
genitals. I don't see that position as in any way odd.

Supermac1976
11-19-2013, 04:29 PM

Classic Jorge
11-19-2013, 04:31 PM
Surely a Bin-Laden-esque plop in the drink would have been better. How far is Cheef's house from the sea?

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:34 PM
and if you wait till 16 every fecker will say no by then...so do it early do it quick do it clean..snip snap job done

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:35 PM
as it makes you look a bit of a goon :-)

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:38 PM

Berni
11-19-2013, 04:44 PM

Chief Arrowhead
11-19-2013, 04:47 PM
I knew it would be bad, but even I didn't think it would be this bad!

Snin
11-19-2013, 04:48 PM
babies died EVER of any complications with uhthera or general knob rot probs and who didnt have the chop ..

Monty91
11-19-2013, 04:53 PM

Berni
11-19-2013, 04:57 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57449105-10391704/cdc -11-infants-contracted-herpes-due-to-controversial-jewish-ci rcumcision-practice/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57449105-10391704/cdc-11-infants-contracted-herpes-due-to-controversial-jewish-circumcision-practice/)

http://www.circumstitions.com/death-exsang.html

http://www.intaction.org/baby-dies-from-circumcision-in-cali fornia/ (http://www.intaction.org/baby-dies-from-circumcision-in-california/)

Monty91
11-19-2013, 05:00 PM
I don't think either me or snin are advocating that practice.

Monty91
11-19-2013, 05:04 PM

Berni
11-19-2013, 05:05 PM

Monty91
11-19-2013, 05:13 PM
am hesitant to even consider myself Jewish.