Lar - I may be a middle aged Nogman NOW

[Guns 'n' Roses]

but I used to be fit as a fiddle. And I have a sahn wot runs the Coe distances so I know a bit about O2 traning. Neg suggests that the Krauts are drugged on EPO because they have such stamina. That may be so, but just because a football team manages to develop players with higher stamina than most other teams doesn't mean they're drugged - the potential for improvement of the O2 for football players is huge. Just run a serious amount of interval training. The challenge is of course to balance it against other training. And to avoid losing tempo/speed. But then agian, I'm pretty sure that Seb Coe would run faster than most footballers on the 100 m.

Regarding tough mental experience - I would guess that golf players have a bigger mental challenge keeping focused for 4 rounds each taking 4 hours?

[Pokster]

very rare i fely mentally drained after playing Golf, even when i was playing at a decent standard (long time ago :cry: )

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

and football in terms of tiredness or fitness.

The tiring part of football isn't the running, it's constantly being impacted by 13 stone of muscle travelling at 30 mph, being knocked to the ground whilst travelling at speed, getting up and going again.

Mincing round a track or swinging a golf bat bears no relation. Neither does rugby, where the impacts are all at low speed.

Dortmund, Bayern and Barcelona are quite clearly drugged off their tits.

[redgunamo]

be doing, what you are preparing/prepared for.

[Guns 'n' Roses]

I was mentally drained after that.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Did you see him collect that ball from Giroud which fell behind him? Did you la?

[redgunamo]

professional golf. Which is completely different to the temperament required to play professional football. Or professional athletics.

And so on.

[Guns 'n' Roses]

provided the course is open.

[Brentwood]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WxrsYsoBlOA/SwCwAFluYzI/AAAAAAAAOFI/ZLv0Kn23Usc/s1600/snowGolf2.jpg

[Luis Anaconda]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

A particularly mustardy vinaigrette would be my best guess.

[Snin]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Pokster]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

a physical form that is way ahead of the others - and you know that the fag and pint culture still exists in football - then the conclusion is EPO.

Perhaps they just train more running? As I said, maybe that's smart, maybe it's not. Maybe you get less time training with the ball in your feet then, and maybe you lose speed.

And it's not Bayern that are up there with Dortmund, it's Augsburg.

[Guns 'n' Roses]

I just need to get the missus on board.

[Pokster]

well Rugby Union anyway, league is obviously betterer

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Good luck to you.

[Guns 'n' Roses]

Blimey, I saw two chaps fighting without the ref stopping the game.

They quit fighting when the "ball" came their way and then continued playing as if nothing had happened.

Same with a chap that got an elbow in his nose. He got on with it.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Luis Anaconda]

hairs on your head. No one f**king cares about league btw

[Guns 'n' Roses]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Bloody benefit cheat.

[Luis Anaconda]

they were my team when it used to be shown on Channel 4 in the 80 - was great to go and see their ground last time I was there but sadly it was out of season

[Pokster]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

compared to track and field. Which of course means that the fastest football player is about 20 m behind on a 100 m sprint. And then again, a sprinter would struggle with the change of direction a footballer has to manage at high speeds.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Pokster]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

Actually, we arrived on the day of the final, between none other than Freemantle and Melbourne.

The waterfront in Freemantle is nice. Great seafood, great beer. And the city is charming.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

culturally, technologically and culinarily is pretty well African.

[redgunamo]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

[Luis Anaconda]

Couple of other really nice micro breweries in Freemantle. Did you try this place in Perth

http://www.thegeneroussquire.com.au

[Luis Anaconda]

Not that there is anything wrong with that of course

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Pokster]