I know this may sound ungrateful, but when you go to someone's house for dinner and it's roast

[Berni]

chicken, doesn't your heart sink just a tiny bit?

I mean roast chicken's fine, but y'know? It's about as 'meh' as dinner gets.

Plus, it represents very little effort, really. Why bother inviting me around if you're not going to put some effort in beyond shoving something in the oven and waiting for it to go brown?

I'm being churlish, aren't I? :-(

[Pat Vegas]

but you'll find people who don't like lamb of the beef is to rare for their liking.

[PSRB]

decent roasties, parsnips, good gravy and yorkshire puddings (sod just having them with beef)

I would of course prefer beef or pork as the meat part though

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

it? Feeding 4 people with one chicken is f**king mean.

There.

[The JBear]

If not, then they just don't like you very much, I'm afraid.

[Berni]

Agree with you about Yorkshires. They're too good only to have with beef. Although I must admit I was faintly scandalised the first time I was presented with them in a non-beef context.

[Ashberto]

[Nicosia Gooner]

[Berni]

Merely the effort. :-(

[Snin]

[Fedor]

with some mouton rothschild to wash it down, classic dinner imho

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

And it was horrible. We have a saying when veg is grossly overcooked 'Oh dear you have Brenda'd the veg again'

Sister in LAw leaves her house in the cotswolds to come to Essex and says 'tell Mum to put the veg on' shudder.

[PSRB]

and techniques rather than just chucking a joint straight into the oven

[Snin]

the inner cavity stuffed with lemon and rosemary..lots of things can be done to make it a tidy tasty bird imo

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

If care was taken with the quality of the ingredients, the preparation and the cooking of same, I would be delighted with someone's chickens.

If you want Michelin-starred dining, I'm afraid you'll have to write a large cheque to M. Roux or Mr Blumenthal.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Lazy *******.

[Berni]

Maybe something with a sauce? A really good stew? A curry? A nice piece of fish, even?

I'm not asking for cordon bleu, just something that shows a bit of care.

[:hehe:]

[Berni]

[Pokster]

and you are just a 'B' grade guest?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Or taking care to roast a duck properly is different to doing the same with a chicken?

No. You must accept that you have made a balls of this one and move on.

[:hehe:]

[Berni]

[PSRB]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

English. Each week I try a different theme, but other than the skin there is little one can do to help the chicken too much. The medium of flavour delivery can only really be the gravy.

[Berni]

chicken!

[Fedor]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Man up, for fúck's sake.

[Berni]

A great steaming hunk of oozing, bleeding flesh is a wonderful thing.

Some bits of pale, bland, insipid avian just won't do, I'm afraid.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Or is it all borscht and turnips? :-(

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Bread. In milk. As a sauce.

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

And I put pancetta on the breast then remove near the end to brown the skin. The pancetta makes a nice nibble before dinner

[Fedor]

[Berni]

It's still essentially going to taste of f*ck all other than what you put on it or in it. :shrug:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

Now with partridge or pheasant, yes. But not with chicken.

And there are cloves in it as well. Stuck in a wee onion.

[Pat Vegas]

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It was dreadful :-(

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Not too much! It's quite powerful.

[Berni]

[Fedor]

I mean in St.Petersburg of all places :-)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It was probably off.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

The borsch? Not so much.

[Fedor]

That will be the lesson for you.

[The Tony]

And I was dismayed at the amount of Bernaise sauce that was given to me for my steak....what's up with that? I like to lash that **** on.....

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I can, because I know the secret.

[Berni]

[Brentwood]

I was ripping it off with my bare hands and stuffing it into my gob and the grease was running down my clothes but i didn't care, because i felt like a roman emperor :cloud9: Then I got carried away and started throwing babies against the wall

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Barbarian!

[Berni]

Very tender + High fat content = :eat:

Jonathan Swift knew what he was about imo.