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SOLMAN(read by millions)
10-29-2013, 07:14 AM
appalling , amateur

eastgermanautos
10-29-2013, 07:56 AM
Appalling, amateur.

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 07:58 AM

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 08:00 AM

Peter
10-29-2013, 08:32 AM
He is just an ignorant old c**t.

And he is wrong by the way.

Pokster
10-29-2013, 08:53 AM
and that they are too advanced up the pitch which enables teams to get through us too quickly.

We let 1 in against villa and had a player sent off on Saturday from our corners

Pokster
10-29-2013, 08:54 AM
and we let players break without getting behind them

PSRB
10-29-2013, 08:55 AM
the problem I have is that Gibbs should be on the cover not Arteta

Also helps if the delivery is better for the corner

Pokster
10-29-2013, 08:56 AM
and I agree that a fullback should be the deepest player

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 08:56 AM
How many corners a week do we have and how often do we concede from them? If he was right then surely he could have 20 examples from the last month?

Pokster
10-29-2013, 08:57 AM

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 08:59 AM
out and set themselves to punish us on this glaring amateurish defending? I'm amazed we aren't conceding goals like this every week if it was as you have been led to believe my Hansen.

PSRB
10-29-2013, 09:01 AM
from corners. We used to be brilliant at it

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:11 AM

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:12 AM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
10-29-2013, 09:15 AM
Perhaps it is, at an amateur level. Beyond a certain level it becomes a more complex business, I'm afraid.

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:21 AM
so to plan how to expolit what another tema does or doesn't do is impossible

Free SL
10-29-2013, 09:21 AM
plus the Villa one where we were chasing the game, 2-1 down with 10 men.

Prior to that he used an example from 2010.

Hardly indicative of our defending being error strewn from our own corners is it?

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:21 AM

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:22 AM
that is the concern

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:25 AM
like that for most corners....

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:28 AM
and as he was a very good defender I think he knows more about defending than anyone on here

Free SL
10-29-2013, 09:29 AM
so far all he has done is highlight 3 times in about 120 League games that we have been caught out like that.

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:30 AM

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:31 AM

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 09:31 AM
Seriously I don't even know where to begin with that. You honestly, honestly, honestly don't think that a team wouldn't look at the opportunity to break and score when defending a corner? Against a top 4 team like Arsenal? It is probably one of the first plays they look at.

Maybe I am being harsh but I just assumed everyone knew how basic organisation of a football team works.

Free SL
10-29-2013, 09:32 AM
Villa and Palace were from this season

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:39 AM
**** happens at times

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:41 AM
at our own corners, we leave our slowest midfield player as our deepest player. if you think that is good planning then you know nothing about football

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:43 AM
from corners... blimey, I'm glad it is all so black and white

Nicosia Gooner
10-29-2013, 09:43 AM

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 09:45 AM

Luis Anaconda
10-29-2013, 09:45 AM
that if two of the three examples he can find are one from three years ago and one from when we were chasing the game with only 10 men it can't actually be as major a problem as people are making out? It's quite simple

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 09:49 AM
And comes our with these most ridiculous things. I am sure the real PF is completely unaware that this is happening to him.

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:53 AM
when they have a corner and if our basic set up is giving other teams more chance than normal it is something that should concern us.... for all i know there could be countless examples of us setting up like that and other teams not playing the correct ball... if it is something atht is easy to solve he is right in bringing it up imo

Pokster
10-29-2013, 09:55 AM
corners 3-4 times a year because they don't have someone on the near post.... might not happen a lot but is something thta is easy to sort out.

Very few goals get scored form corners at either end,if you can change 1 simple thing to make it even less likely you will let one in then surely that is the correct thing to do?

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 10:01 AM
Football isn't black and white. It is not as simple as saying if you always have someone on the near post you will not concede from there. What if by having that person there you are leaving another vulnerable area somewhere else. That other problem could be costing you 4 goals a season. So if you move the player from the front post you solve that but maybe you concede 3 goals a season at the near post. Which is the right thing to do? Same goes with zonal marking and the same goes with how we approach corners at certain times in certain games. Mark my word, the club will have done all the research in the world and examined every possible outcome and permutation and come to the conclusion that this is the right thing to do for this set of players in this circumstance. The examples are something like 3 goals in 3 seasons or something. Where is the stat that shows how many goals we have scored when setting up like that in the same circumstance? That is the fundamental point you are missing here. It is basic risk reward, I honestly thought you would get that. Sadly not.

Pokster
10-29-2013, 10:03 AM
with the wrong player as the deepest, that is my opinion, I don't care/mind if people think I am wrong and Hansen is incorrect......

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 10:05 AM
as cover.

Missing that if you bring another defender back, teams will always push another forward on.

Luis Anaconda
10-29-2013, 10:05 AM
this is where you whole argument falls down

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 10:07 AM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
10-29-2013, 10:37 AM

Pokster
10-29-2013, 10:38 AM
not that we needed another player back there as well

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 10:38 AM
This isn't the Pokster of old, is it?

Maravilloso Marvo
10-29-2013, 10:39 AM