Gneville was saying the other night that IHO the Man Utd board would give Moyes as long as he needs

[Ashberto]

to get going - up to two years if necessary, and that Utd were not a manager-sacking type of club. I think it's too early to predict anything, and they've had a challenging fixture list, but if they were somehow to miss out on a CL slot presumably their thieving scoundrel owners would just have to take a bit less money out of the club next year.

I suppose the meme is that the group of players they have is a little bit short in certain areas, getting past their prime in other areas, and that only the unique characteristics of the former manager could blast them to victory. If so, how long before the spendsomef**kinmoney chants are heard in Manchester?

[redgunamo]

Perhaps their outlook might be different as they've had so much recent success anyway? A few barren years is hardly the end of the world.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

When they are next able to spend.

[Harry Balls]

[Ashberto]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

*assuming they can get the players they want.

In terms of the summer I am very surprised they f**ked up given their usual modus operandi in respect of summer transfers.

[Ashberto]

Others may have a stronger sense of entitlement.

[Monty91]

Malcolm Gladwell has it right. The morally superior position is to back the overdog, not the underdog. The underdog *expects* to lose and so is unaffected when they do. For the overdog, losing is a mentally crushing experience.

[redgunamo]

for a number of reasons.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

If they don't win it then they will welcome anybody other than City, perhaps Chelsea also as no f**ker wants to see Mourinho being Mourinho.

[Ashberto]

and probably the need to still be in Europe at that point. See also: us buying a top striker in Jan.

I've a feeling they might buy Ramsey next summer. Maybe Cesc as well if he's not happy at the time.

[Monty91]

it stops working, your affection for it – deriving as it is from its functional use – will quickly dissipate. If it stops working altogether, you might even smash it on the ground and call it a c**t. (or a senile French c**t, if it was made in France)

[Lar d'Arse]

was new in the job also. Great at marketing but inexperienced in the Transfer Market. Some pretty fundamental errors made during the summer that you couldn't see the former regime having made.

[redgunamo]

away from your next title (like Bayern, for example) must add a certain sense of calm generosity of spirit.

Our own situation is only complicated by the longevity of our current manager. Uncharted waters for a big club and supporters are not used to including the bigger picture in our deliberations.

[redgunamo]

[Fedor]

more game he is out"/

[7evens]

Was this attributed to
a - The motivation and tactical genius of old piss breath
b - The luck of old piss breath combined with the ****ness of everyone else.
c - Robin Van Persie

Funny ol game clive...

[Bergkamp's Brain]

bearing in mind the number of JCLs they have, it might be as early as this summer

[Ashberto]

The Dick Law of Manchester.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

If we were still interested, that ship may have sailed of course.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Of course if the toy is actually broken then you're f**ked.

[Lar d'Arse]

are not cup tied in Europe: Baines (who I don't think they really need) and Herrera (who I don't know a lot about but they seem to rate him).

Indeed a target of our own won't be cup tied either - one L Suarez.

[Monty91]

just not with the same kind of visceral anger we saw from our thick fat friend on Arse**** TV after the Villa game, because game after game that would be emotionally draining.

It's why our fans *are* so angry. We don't lose enough games for them to drain them of their energy to express their anger.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

They'll come good this year, of that I have no doubt at all.

[redgunamo]

his views were unusual and extreme.

That's television.

[Monty91]

Yes or no answer would be good. Thanks :-)

[Ashberto]

[Lar d'Arse]

[redgunamo]

The point I failed to make was that, often, behaviour is what it is regardless of success or failure.

[The JBear]

If he was doing that again this season, it would have papered over the cracks (as, it seems, it did back then).

[Ashberto]

I'm getting it from all sorts of people at work now: "Oh you Arsenal fans wanted Wenger out the other week." I have to explain that despite the noisy discontents, most of us had still backed the manager.

Also, some press reports are treating the fans in the same, simplistic, binary manner - as too does Monty, who wants to kill us all.

[Ashberto]

[redgunamo]

Like I said before, that's why we simply had to sign Mesut Özil. It's not just about actual football supporters anymore.

[redgunamo]

Although I feel we must recognise some distinction between actual football supporters and everybody else who may contribute to the football economy.

[7evens]

Credit where it's due and all that.
The big unknown is whether or not he was pressured to change course and invest from the warchest or whether or not this was a unilateral decison.

[redgunamo]

[7evens]

Giroud, Chesney, Mert all stepping it up.
Ozil's arrival has done as much to motivate others as it has enhanced our overall game with his talent.

[Monty91]

[redgunamo]

[Monty91]

[7evens]

Early exists from all competitions and the annual fight for fourth can tend to provoke questioning when fans are expecting a bit more.

[redgunamo]

It makes no difference either way; groundhog seasons is the whole point!