Ramsey and van Persie. (repost from one year ago).

[Ashberto]

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=518515 &mid=3540754&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848 311a384a&rev=&reveal= (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=518515&mid=3540754&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848311a384a&rev=&reveal=)



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Could his departure liberate Ramsey, taking the handbrake off and allowing him to get back to his best form? I think we'll see a much better Ramsey this season.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Ashberto]

mental strengzth, great speerit etc.

And not having punchups with that flappy-armed Dutchman.

[Mack]

[Jake]

Bold to suggest Diaby would even be able to make it onto the pitch without crumbling imo.

[Ashberto]

Far more damning. I have been doing some research. :sherlock:

[Ashberto]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Perhaps i should've been little bit more patient, but he was playing like a retard for quite some time.

[Jake]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Hold your head up though BGM. You made a call at the time based on form at the time. No harm done.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

but that you d3escribed him thus at all. He is an Arsenal player. You're supposed to be on HIS side.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It is utter f**king stupidity to suggest otherwise.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

in the extreme.

It is a matter of respect.

[Ashberto]

debate. :-)

I am genuinely interested in whether Robin's departure may have been a factor in helping Aaron rediscover his form - and so much more.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

But given it is a throwaway comment on an internet message board I think it's impact is trivial.

It was an opinion at the time, nothing more.

If BGM (to use the lad as an example) was to stand in the ground and berate Ramsey or another player, loudly referring to him on occasion as ******** then perhaps you may have a point, his support on that occasion was somewhat diluted.

This notion that you cannot say anything negative about the club or employees thereof because we are supporters is f**king ridiculous.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

is terrifying. Where do you draw the line?

[Ashberto]

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3414 788&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848311a384a (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3414788&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848311a384a)

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

A realisation that simple often works, not trying to force moves with often silly flicks that increasingly found the opposition and increasingly were seized upon by supporters. If he tried such a flick this weekend and it did not work nobody would give a f**k. If Jack Wilshere had tried the same flicks as Aaron did last season with the same results he would have got away with it as he was not the scapegoat.

Confidence, maturity, a sense of ease and comfort within the team / squad and hard work. All these things.

Perhaps Robin leaving was a factor also. Was it not hinted at years ago that the original departure of Thierry would allow others to finally flourish?

[Bergkamp's Brain]

:-D

As I said back then, there are no quotes, and the possibility of interpretation is quite high. You may also be 100% spot on that RvP hated Ramsey and this affected Ramsey's form.

In any event it has taken Ramsey a whole year of no RvP to "come good" so to speak.

[g gooner]

[Ashberto]

Others though, were a little less patient.

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3547 862&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848311a384a (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3547862&rid=2804&S=be517a183f4501d098da5848311a384a)

[g gooner]

[Jake]

I'd say the very same thing about Jack right now.

[Ashberto]

Not as good as Samir's flick leading up to the first City goal though. Did you see it?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I may say the odd thing on here that offends people, if so then I would apologise but it is not done initially with intent to hurt that person.

Similarly other people on here would readily make jokes or throwaway comments about cancer, I wouldn’t personally do so. I know the comments are not meant to hurt people.

This place would push the boundaries of what different people may see as human decency all the time. Not sure why you are getting so worked up about it now. Your good friend Berni was off on one earlier about a politician, his opinion so good luck to him. How come you weren’t pulling him up?

Calling a player a ****er? Harmless. Calling him a useless ****er? Harmless. Throwaway. Of course he is not useless, he is a professional footballer but it’s simply a comment.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

In general City were excellent.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I knew he was a player, never disputed his form at the time mind you.

I just did not like the scapegoatery.

[Ashberto]

I once said something rather negative, out loud, about Sagna when he gave Man Utd that pen, and felt terrible about it. :-(

The more interesting historical comments about Ramsey are not the ones that reveal frustration with his form, but to predict that he'll never be good enough etc.

[Mc Gooner]

The internet is vehicle for people to offer evidence that they can be cünts

I sometimes appear a miserable cünt apparently but I am positively driven by the aforementioned norms of human decency :hehe:

[PSRB]

[eastgermanautos]

[Berni]

whatsoever and - most importantly - who is both bumfaced and a c*nt - a bumfaced c*nt. I stand by that, would happily say it in the man's hearing and make no apology for it.

BGM called a player on the team he purports to support a sh*tc*nt on a public messageboard.

I don't think those two things are comparable.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

to Ed Balls.

Our supporters have, I feel, reason to feel loyalty to our players.