Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
08-07-2013, 01:38 PM
Basically saying why is Feo rated as £15m and Bale £100m, given that Bale scored just 5 more goals but had 4 less assists.
Feo 21+11=32
Monkey 26+7=33
Not much in it.
Do dives count as assists if the pen is scored? If so, the monkey is worth 6-7x as much as Feo just because he can cheat a pen or two every season.
So if Feo had learnt to cheat like the monkey, he'd be worth an extra £80m.
Also, Feo didn't play for a period when his contract shenanigans were ongoing. He'd surely have scored or made a goal or two in that period, putting in the same class as the monkey.
With Santi out left, him and Feo score and make enough goals imo. (Though even more would be nice.)
If we could get a decent, double figure return from whoever plays in the no.10 role, we'd be sorted, especially with a 25+ (or even 30+) centre forward.
I'm neither an AKB or an Arsene-outer.
But my feelings will be determined in part by who starts the season as no.10
I'd love him to keep TR7 playing there.
Last 2 seasons, it was Tommy getting that role towards the end of the season that got us into 4th place.
With Jack's drive and Mikky's guile behind him, then it could be ok.
But we could really do with TR scoring 10+ goals, and Jack getting towards that figure.
What's the most goals TR has ever scored forr us in a season btw?
Anyway, here's the article if you're interested.....
We have a thing about mistakes in Britain. We don’t like them. If you attempt to start your own business here, and it fails, the chances of receiving investment for another reduces dramatically.
Elsewhere they are less judgmental. A failed businessman or woman in America for example is an experienced one, an individual less likely to make the mistakes of the beginner. They are not tainted.
This cultural difference must be at play when it comes to the strange case of Theo Walcott v Gareth Bale.
They are both 24, both impressively quick and last season scored 47 goals between them. Given that Real Madrid have offered £85m for Bale and nothing at all for Walcott you might be tempted to conclude only seven of those goals were scored by the Arsenal attacker.
Bale, though, scored only five more than his former Southampton team-mate. And when it came to creativity in the Premier League last season Walcott was the more effective player, providing 11 assists to Bale’s seven.
In January Walcott signed a three year extension to his contract with Arsenal and he tends to be labelled these days as a £15million player. Odd, that.
Even if you take Real Madrid’s LOOK AT ME manner of conducting business out of the equation Walcott v Bale is a conundrum. How many Arsenal fans are thinking, as the Welshman’s transfer tale unfolds, ‘Ha, we have the English Bale and he’s not going anywhere’?
Nationality is a factor. A player’s progress is monitored more closely if they are an England prospect and Walcott was over-hyped as a future saviour for his nation when he was picked, aged 17, by Sven-Goran Eriksson, to travel to the 2006 World Cup.
That his subsequent progress was in fits and starts was entirely predictable but it left a residue of mistrust. If he could whizz down the wing and score hat-tricks one week, why not every week?
Meanwhile Bale was being treated like a character in a comic book. He was considered a jinx. His first 24 appearances for Tottenham were not in themselves appalling but his team failed to win any of their games. Bale, then, has had longer to find his feet unfettered by expectation.
Perhaps it is all about image. Real clearly believe Bale can create income through marketing and image rights. He was busy at the awards end of the season, everyone’s player of the year, a humble, boy next door sort of chap.
Except that he has a reputation for diving which might or might not be unfair given the pace at which he overtakes opponents. When it comes to post-match chit-chat Walcott is the more eloquent fellow and just as modest.
Bale’s goals are more glamorous, well timed and more powerfully struck but there have been matches where if you remove Bale’s goals his contribution was less than sparkling.
Walcott is still searching for a selfish streak and works hard to link up with his team-mates. It does not always succeed. A typical Walcott run will sometimes prompt a sharp intake of breath followed by a deep sigh as the crowd heckle that he should have shot, not passed -or passed not taken a shot.
He makes mistakes and for a player who makes errors to be able to boast his statistics is worthy of adulation of Bale like proportions.
......
Just had a look.
He scored 6 goals in 18 games in the league in his 2nd season (when he'd have been playing out wide from memory), but bugger all since.
Anyone reckon he could get back to scoring 1 in 3 if he played as the no.10?
If so, we'd be sorted.
Feo 21+11=32
Monkey 26+7=33
Not much in it.
Do dives count as assists if the pen is scored? If so, the monkey is worth 6-7x as much as Feo just because he can cheat a pen or two every season.
So if Feo had learnt to cheat like the monkey, he'd be worth an extra £80m.
Also, Feo didn't play for a period when his contract shenanigans were ongoing. He'd surely have scored or made a goal or two in that period, putting in the same class as the monkey.
With Santi out left, him and Feo score and make enough goals imo. (Though even more would be nice.)
If we could get a decent, double figure return from whoever plays in the no.10 role, we'd be sorted, especially with a 25+ (or even 30+) centre forward.
I'm neither an AKB or an Arsene-outer.
But my feelings will be determined in part by who starts the season as no.10
I'd love him to keep TR7 playing there.
Last 2 seasons, it was Tommy getting that role towards the end of the season that got us into 4th place.
With Jack's drive and Mikky's guile behind him, then it could be ok.
But we could really do with TR scoring 10+ goals, and Jack getting towards that figure.
What's the most goals TR has ever scored forr us in a season btw?
Anyway, here's the article if you're interested.....
We have a thing about mistakes in Britain. We don’t like them. If you attempt to start your own business here, and it fails, the chances of receiving investment for another reduces dramatically.
Elsewhere they are less judgmental. A failed businessman or woman in America for example is an experienced one, an individual less likely to make the mistakes of the beginner. They are not tainted.
This cultural difference must be at play when it comes to the strange case of Theo Walcott v Gareth Bale.
They are both 24, both impressively quick and last season scored 47 goals between them. Given that Real Madrid have offered £85m for Bale and nothing at all for Walcott you might be tempted to conclude only seven of those goals were scored by the Arsenal attacker.
Bale, though, scored only five more than his former Southampton team-mate. And when it came to creativity in the Premier League last season Walcott was the more effective player, providing 11 assists to Bale’s seven.
In January Walcott signed a three year extension to his contract with Arsenal and he tends to be labelled these days as a £15million player. Odd, that.
Even if you take Real Madrid’s LOOK AT ME manner of conducting business out of the equation Walcott v Bale is a conundrum. How many Arsenal fans are thinking, as the Welshman’s transfer tale unfolds, ‘Ha, we have the English Bale and he’s not going anywhere’?
Nationality is a factor. A player’s progress is monitored more closely if they are an England prospect and Walcott was over-hyped as a future saviour for his nation when he was picked, aged 17, by Sven-Goran Eriksson, to travel to the 2006 World Cup.
That his subsequent progress was in fits and starts was entirely predictable but it left a residue of mistrust. If he could whizz down the wing and score hat-tricks one week, why not every week?
Meanwhile Bale was being treated like a character in a comic book. He was considered a jinx. His first 24 appearances for Tottenham were not in themselves appalling but his team failed to win any of their games. Bale, then, has had longer to find his feet unfettered by expectation.
Perhaps it is all about image. Real clearly believe Bale can create income through marketing and image rights. He was busy at the awards end of the season, everyone’s player of the year, a humble, boy next door sort of chap.
Except that he has a reputation for diving which might or might not be unfair given the pace at which he overtakes opponents. When it comes to post-match chit-chat Walcott is the more eloquent fellow and just as modest.
Bale’s goals are more glamorous, well timed and more powerfully struck but there have been matches where if you remove Bale’s goals his contribution was less than sparkling.
Walcott is still searching for a selfish streak and works hard to link up with his team-mates. It does not always succeed. A typical Walcott run will sometimes prompt a sharp intake of breath followed by a deep sigh as the crowd heckle that he should have shot, not passed -or passed not taken a shot.
He makes mistakes and for a player who makes errors to be able to boast his statistics is worthy of adulation of Bale like proportions.
......
Just had a look.
He scored 6 goals in 18 games in the league in his 2nd season (when he'd have been playing out wide from memory), but bugger all since.
Anyone reckon he could get back to scoring 1 in 3 if he played as the no.10?
If so, we'd be sorted.