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Rich
07-31-2013, 05:27 AM
Suarez's contract that means they have to get rid of him. And that Suarez accepts this and will stay at Liverpool this season unless a foreign club comes in for him.

Liverpool are apparently steadfastly refusing to sell him to a rival - unless we bid upwards of £55million.

This has left me feeling rather f**ked off, tbh. The question is now - time is running out, is there even anyone available that is of the required standard? Only Rooney and United will not sell him to us.

Harry Balls
07-31-2013, 05:57 AM
in the past. if the player insists, the club will drop the media front and talk turkey.

Rich
07-31-2013, 06:06 AM
£55million?

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 06:39 AM

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 06:41 AM

Rich
07-31-2013, 07:05 AM

ROSSCO DISCO
07-31-2013, 07:19 AM

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 07:28 AM
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/07/30/arsenal-told-deal-to -sign-luis-suarez-will-cost-78m/ (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/07/30/arsenal-told-deal-to-sign-luis-suarez-will-cost-78m/)

Redflag
07-31-2013, 07:28 AM
with his silly £40million and a quid bid for Suarez .

PET
07-31-2013, 07:31 AM

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 07:33 AM
For a player who is desperate to leave his club, has caused his club loads of problems and embarrassment, and whose agent told us that he had a 40m release clause

How much do you think we should have offered them for him at this stage?

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 07:36 AM

Peter
07-31-2013, 07:40 AM
It was either a joke bid for the conspiracy theoriests to get angry about or, worse, a foolish bid built on a mistaken belief about the lad's contract.

Even if it is neither, it is a failed bid, its august and we have done f**k all after talking big.

Its looking like a slightly embarrassing summer for us. Looking forward to the season starting. We are **** at summers :hehe:

Peter
07-31-2013, 07:41 AM
As though we knew something, as though we were being clever. Seems we were wrong and being a bit daft :hehe:

Peter
07-31-2013, 07:44 AM
A rivalry or the anger of the fans.

Also....selling to united and barca isnt really selling to a rival. They are confortably ahead of us. City were a rival but they were offering bucketloads :hehe:

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 07:49 AM
suffice so we bid over 40m rather than 40m

What I find weird is how there can be so much ambiguity wrt his contract

I hope we don't get him and he has to stay anyway. It will be brilliant watching him sulk and do even more mental things next season

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 07:51 AM
more serious offer.

That was an eBay bid.

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 07:51 AM

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 07:52 AM

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 07:53 AM
when you are under the assumption that 1 quid is enough, and when you think that they wouldn't be allowed to refuse your offer

Redflag
07-31-2013, 07:57 AM
in the cannibal's contract. Ivan and Wenger knew that the 40m would not be accepted,why didn't Ivan go back and offer 50m to test the Henry's resolve? So far Wenger has spent zero - despite all of the big talk from Ivan about matching anyone for prices and wages.

The effort to sign Higuain stopped once Perez stepped in and demanded more money . 30m was too much for him apparently ,so they offered that instead for Suarez,even though they knew that this would not be enough.:-)

So the question is why not just buy Higuain ?

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 07:57 AM
We still need a top, top striker!

As far as I am concerned, we either get players or we don't, there is no try. The board cannot possibly say we tried and expect to have any credibility. If we need to strengthen, we either do it, or we fail to do it, I can't see much middle ground.

PSRB
07-31-2013, 07:57 AM

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 07:57 AM

Rich
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM
August 2013.

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM
That's what f**ks me off about this. I don't expect us to spend £60m on a player, even with our lashings of cash.

But I expected to move away from our piss taking penny pinching bids and rather than try to save £500k just sign the bloody player.

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM

Peter
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM
And it turns out we were wrong.

Some might suggest that if we were serious about dealing with liverpool we would have deliberately avoided insulting them

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 07:58 AM

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 08:00 AM
Chelsea.

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:01 AM
Mere effort is not good enough. You dont come off the field after a defeat and say 'well, we tried'

Effort should be a given for a professional.

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:03 AM
If it was true we would be a f**king good side :hehe:

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:04 AM
of course if you shout your mouth off about being able to compete and being good enough then get taken to the cleaners, it looks a tad piss poor.

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 08:05 AM

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:05 AM

Brentwood
07-31-2013, 08:05 AM
to put it into context. If they believed that he had a release clause and LFC were in no position to say no to us, they would have been totally irresponsible gifting them that much money for no reason whatsoever

As it turns out, the release clause may be total *******s, but that's hardly our fault if we were given the wrong information from the player or his agent

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:05 AM

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 08:06 AM

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:07 AM
They gave everything etc.....you dont actually, really mean it. If they didnt try hard enough you would slaughter them and rightly so.

Effort meets the minimum expectstion. Effort isnt performance, merely a pre-requisite of it.

eastgermanautos
07-31-2013, 08:07 AM

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:07 AM

Classic Jorge
07-31-2013, 08:08 AM

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:08 AM
not relevant to Arsenal in the transfer market, obviously.

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:09 AM

Rich
07-31-2013, 08:09 AM

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:11 AM
Performance.

If you came in last and ran one of your slowest times of the year, but bust a gut doing it- effort.

If you turn up pissed and fall over before crossing the line- lad! :-)

Classic Jorge
07-31-2013, 08:12 AM
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/174556914.jpg

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:12 AM

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:26 AM
yet we let a player like Higuain go to Napoli without a fight. A player we could have competed for, for £6M less than we are bidding for Suarez.

I realise the noises coming out about goalposts being moved during negotiations but something about that does smell fishy. Arsenal's credibility in the game of getting in top, top quality is at a low right now. Only the club can improve that.

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:28 AM
I suppose we thought that once the money was back players would sign up knowing they were with a big club, a great coach, and proper resources to compete.

Maybe they dont believe it. Maybe they just see the lack of success and consider us also rans.

Redflag
07-31-2013, 08:30 AM
and it became a case of let's see who blinks first.
Ivan did himself - and Wenger - no favors when he revealed how much money Wenger had to spend .
The guy is obviously no poker player. Also he knows f**k all about football.

Bergkamp's Brain
07-31-2013, 08:32 AM

Classic Jorge
07-31-2013, 08:33 AM

Dutch Gooner
07-31-2013, 08:36 AM

Redflag
07-31-2013, 08:39 AM
er no Titi I don't call black people Sambo ,but Argie is not a racist comment ,other than in your deluded PC warped mind.

Classic Jorge
07-31-2013, 08:41 AM

ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich
07-31-2013, 08:43 AM

Redflag
07-31-2013, 08:43 AM
Now give it a rest before you make yourself look even a bigger mug than you already have.

Peter
07-31-2013, 08:46 AM
:-)

Classic Jorge
07-31-2013, 08:48 AM