So we've got enough shale gas to transform our economy with cheap fuel, but we mustn't exploit it

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

because there's a risk of earthquakes? It's all up norf, isn't it? Who's going to notice* there's been the odd earthquake?

*care

[Maravilloso Marvo]

Will I be at risk?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Take my advice. Stay home where it's safe.

[Classic Jorge]

The fracking process creates massive amounts of spoilage and waste and, this is very much the clincher here, the shale seams in this country are hugely different - more diffused, complex and mixed with other stuff - than the seams in the US.

It would require a hugely complex and completely new engineering solution to extract it.

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[Classic Jorge]

[Maravilloso Marvo]

Is this country built on not trying to overcome obstacles?

[Rich]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Hold on, we can't afford a candle.

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

[Witharby 2-3 weeks]

[Classic Jorge]

the US model think it will be.

I mean, for a start, there are millions of people actually living on top of where this stuff is. Given the issues with compensation for loss of property, ill health and injury coupled with the fact that it's incredibly hard to extract this stuff in the first place it would probably be cheaper and easier to re-open a coal seam (of which there are many) or buy it in from overseas (which successive governments have done anyway).

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pat Vegas]

[Pat Vegas]

[Free SL]

More reason to explore it then, we need something to create jobs.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

:rubchin: ummmmm Scotland?

[Witharby 2-3 weeks]

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

[Classic Jorge]

It would probably end up more subsidised than the defence and aerospace jobs which were, at the last reckoning, subsidised to the tune of £19k per job.

By all means explore the possibility, just dont base everything on the US example which for a multitude of reasons is entirely different.

[Berni]

pursuit of the country's energy needs before, is it?

http://sbminisguy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/russell_slag4491.jpg

[Classic Jorge]

It's like bromide

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I agree that re-opening the pits would be a great thing. A whole new generation of norveners can be condemned to hacking at a coal seam in 40 degrees.

[Berni]

On the upside, they'll soon all move down south and be southerners within a generation.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It's funny that gas doesn't hold the same attractions. Is gas somehow too bourgeois?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Some poor *******'s going to get his face ground into the dirt.

[Classic Jorge]

I'm no environMENTALIST, far f**king from it, but a lot of this is just prospecting by people with nothing to lose because we're footing the bill.

[Pat Vegas]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Classic Jorge]

who have a massive toddler-wetty when people even propose improving their railways.

[Classic Jorge]

[PSRB]

on the basis that I can then move south with the cash made

[Ashberto]

Solving such problems can build valuable new skillz. Canal engineering was used to build the railways, for example. wd the navvies.

[Berni]

cf Orwell and his extremely homo-erotic flights of fancy about 'grimy caryatids'.

That's right. Lefties is all pooves.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Progress must be encouraged.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Basically northerners are troglodyte lizards, b.

Don't say lefties are pooves :cry: I've met many nice pooves.

[Classic Jorge]

And rather than subsidise an industry with no tangible rewards we'd probably be better served by letting other people make terrible mistakes, and spend cartloads of money doing it.

The resource will only be more valuable the longer we leave it, that's simple economics.

[Berni]

Although obviously quite a lot of them are. Who else is going to buy The Independent, ffs?

[Classic Jorge]

...he may or may not have bum burgled.

[Berni]

[Pat Vegas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It was an opportunity to suggest that lefties can't be nice. A vehicle for a cheap gag, if you will.

Sometimes one just has to take the shot.

[Berni]

using the train.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Brentwood]

They're scared

[Brentwood]

[Classic Jorge]

[ROSSCO DISCO]

and property near by can fall by 24%

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2227344/Shal e-gas-redraw-economic-map-Britain--price-houses-nearby-wells -fall-24.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2227344/Shale-gas-redraw-economic-map-Britain--price-houses-nearby-wells-fall-24.html)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I mean, what would the neighbours say?

[ROSSCO DISCO]

http://buildings.westsussex.gov.uk/ePlanningOPS/loadFullDeta ils.do?aplId=1154 (http://buildings.westsussex.gov.uk/ePlanningOPS/loadFullDetails.do?aplId=1154)

[Classic Jorge]

Ironically, given the strength of my argument, there's none at all anywhere near me.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I must have bought Dover Soles from every coastal time in England. I'm crazy for a Dover Sole.

[ROSSCO DISCO]