These possession stats suggest that it's not all that it's cracked up to be,

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otherwise we would be doing better in the real league table than United are!


Premier League - England


Ball possession-Statistics
Club ø-BP home ø-BP away BP max. BP min. ø-BP Total
Arsenal
4.League position 58,6% 56,5% 71% - 0:1 46% - 0:2 57,5%
Man City
2.League position 56,9% 55,2% 73% - 1:0 40% - 1:1 56,1%
Liverpool
7.League position 59,9% 51,6% 80% - 0:0 37% - 2:2 55,7%
Chelsea
3.League position 56,9% 52,9% 74% - 4:2 37% - 2:2 54,9%
Man Utd
1.League position 54,2% 53,2% 71% - 2:3 43% - 1:1 53,7%
Spurs
5.League position 55,4% 51,5% 67% - 2:0 32% - 2:1 53,4%
Everton
6.League position 54,3% 52,3% 68% - 3:3 38% - 1:0 53,3%
Swansea
9.League position 55,2% 50,1% 71% - 2:2 39% - 5:0 52,6%
Southampton
13.League position 50,8% 50,3% 66% - 1:2 31% - 3:2 50,6%
Wigan
18.League position 52,1% 48,6% 66% - 1:2 34% - 4:1 50,4%
Fulham
11.League position 50,3% 49,8% 64% - 3:0 29% - 0:1 50,0%
Newcastle
17.League position 52,4% 45,8% 60% - 1:2 33% - 4:0 49,1%
Sunderland
15.League position 51,2% 42,5% 64% - 1:1 33% - 1:0 46,9%
Aston Villa
16.League position 47,4% 44,8% 66% - 1:0 29% - 2:3 46,1%
West Ham
10.League position 46,7% 45,2% 60% - 1:1 20% - 0:0 46,0%
QPR
19.League position 48,3% 43,4% 57% - 3:2 31% - 0:0 45,8%
West Brom
8.League position 46,9% 44,0% 59% - 2:1 34% - 1:2 45,4%
Stoke City
12.League position 48,0% 41,2% 57% - 0:0 32% - 0:0 44,6%
Reading
20.League position 47,4% 41,7% 60% - 3:2 26% - 4:2 44,5%
Norwich
14.League position 45,9% 42,0% 62% - 0:0 29% - 5:0 43,9%
Average: 51,9% 48,1% 65,8% 33,7% 50,0%

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:-)

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[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

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most police dogs are not properly trained or cant be as its only really king charles and hounds who can really do it well..you can put them off with your control of fear..but an ex's dad was police dog handler and he told me this..obviously some dogs amazing and better than machines but most in uk not well trained and also the dog needs to sniff what its looking for just before looking to be good..so they also train them to sit in front of people showing fear.."The truth is – and many expert K-9 trainers agree – that only one out of ten K-9 teams in America are efficient enough to reliably detect contraband. Said another way, most K-9 teams in the US just suck at their job, so the load of green slipped past the police because of a poorly trained dog, not because of any special masking efforts used by the smugglers. Another reason contraband is undetected by dogs is the handler’s failure to present the drug detecting dog to permeating “scent cones� that emanate from the marijuana’s hiding spot.

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[redgunamo]

And you could've drawn lots amongst the other three to find the eventual champions, regardless of possession statistics.

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I think that we tend to overdo the passing .

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Than it is us passing the ball too much

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in it's go nowhere or sideways frequency.

There are ststs for what type of passes players make, Can't be arsed looking them uo again at the moment.

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Perhaps that is what Wenger has asked him to do?

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If we had more authority upfront, we wouldn't pass the ball so much.

Of course though, we're really splitting hairs amongst the top four or five in that list. I mean, the difference between Manchester United and Everton is 26 points, yet only a few fractions of a percentage point in terms of possession.

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other factors are also involved.

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[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Seriously mate, what are you on about?

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I don't know why he finds it so hard to grasp, or why he'd post stats which contradicts his own argument.

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give it rest please. Even Arsene can't f**k up 4th place now.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VGTZEr5I4Q

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the league was corrupted by money and steroids,still close every year, low budget, rememeber the 80's ? ...he's done a fecking good job

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he wasn't good enough for us at the time. That though was when we were title contenders and not competing for just 4th place .
How times have changed.

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losing to sides like Bradford and Blackburn at home is not really good enough.

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[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Seriously though, I wasn't saying possession and ONLY possession is how one wins games. Just that there was infact a correllation between high possession and success when you were positing that there wasn't.


My f**king word..

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:-) had to be done imo

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Stan must be making a fortune selling real ones there :hehe:

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But Tomorrow I Will Be Sober, And You Will Still Be a Fool

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:-)

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[Nicosia Gooner]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoeEvmB4oE

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And thus leaving our midfielders with limited passing options, ultimately leading to a lumped pass out wide to Sagna and the inevitable rubbish cross that follows.

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if one wanted to have a go at the manager like ? just pondering...I guess thats why sports so great for keeping people chatting in pubs and on forums...its like politics , you can never win an argument even when you KNOW you are right and everyone else is stupid :hehe:

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Assuming you honestly believe Wenger tells his players to make **** runs or just not move much at all

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our ability to choke and feck it and then win heroically but lose on away goals etc..reminds me of wales rugby v southern hemisphere and murray at tennis...murray turned it round with new trainer :rubchin:

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watch and not think too much it hurts..plus we cant change it i guess

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[Classic Jorge]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt0vn4ShHZ1r02mipo1_400.gif

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

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even i spotted that grammar

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