Uncanny

[Classic Jorge]

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[Red N White Army]

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[Rich]

strike to demand more money, doesn't mean you should hate her. If she was in charge today you wouldn't have as many of these scumbag chavs, we might not be in the EU and we'd certainly have seen a more respectable population.

What a dark day today is :-(

[Classic Jorge]

[Supermac1976]

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[Ashberto]

before the trade union movement was able to use collective bargaining to obtain decent standards of living?

Serious question, Rich. Do you have any idea of what life was like in the 19th and early 20th century?

[Classic Jorge]

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[PSRB]

smash the unions, greed is good, etc, etc :gordongeckoisourleader:

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

He did a lot for the Empire.....

:hehe:

[Rich]

paid less than people with more valuable skills. If Baroness Thatcher hadn't intervened then you could have had trade unions with as much power as governments.

Churchill aside, you'll be hard pushed to find a greater Prime Minister.

[Ashberto]

:cooper:

Of course my point included whether trade unions are fundamentally evil or not. I was making a case for their historical value without defending specific actions of their leadership in the 70's and 80's.

[Gunner Since Time Began - born to moan]

[Curly]

[Ashberto]

lie between the leadership of labour and capital.

That is a very different matter to your anti-working-class rant above.

So, are you aware of the disparities that arose in a society where capital dominated unnopposed, which is the scenario that Thatcher aspired to?

[Rich]

should lie. People should be paid in accordance with the responsibility they hold in their position. The sense of entitlement that some of these union members had was frightening and Lady Thatcher did exactly the right thing in telling them to do one, IMO. Scum.

[Peter]

[Monty91]

attitude of getting everything they could and looking after their own precisely mirrored many of the capitalist attitudes they professed to despise.

[Peter]

How so?

[Ashberto]

but because their interests were opposed. Dialectically opposed, as Uncle Karl would say.

Since when did morality appear in your dictionary anyway?

[Ashberto]

discussion, but you quickly revert to the vocabulary of a swivel-eyed, raving right wing nutjob.

You also twice ignored my enquiry as to whether you understood the social effects of the naked capitalism to which Thatcher aspired.

[Peter]

It isnt going to help. Rich likes playing the gleefully ignorant lower middle class ****.

[Monty91]

as a greater indicator of my position on morality than the many other things I say that I would suggest hint at an extremely strong and consistent moral code.

[Ashberto]

exploring out of curiosity.

I'm sure you tested something along the lines of the 'all morality is bunk' concept no so long ago.

[Ashberto]

medicine at UCL would be capable of suspending prejudice, hatred and rage for long enough to be able to exhibit some sense of reason and balance, but it seems I'm wrong.

[Peter]

Just means he isnt really worth talking to most of the time.

[Monty91]

"life would be boring if we all had the same opinions" game.

We're all essentially nice, law abiding people - give or take the odd harmless indiscretion like wishing cancer on someone or soaking someone with a puddle in your car - I would imagine if we all stopped playing the game for a moment and bared our souls we'd find there is absolutely nothing to separate us all in terms of our values and our prejudices.

[Peter]

Why else are we on here?

[Chief Arrowhead]

[Monty91]

along lines of what we like/don't like.

And is why even if we had a squad full of top class internationals who finish in the top four EVERY SEASON, there'd still be ingrate ****s moaning about it.