it annoys the hell out of me, think thinking of wenger pissing around on this week off.

[eastgermanautos]

earning 75 grand a day, having a cappuccino, texting van persie.

[Monty91]

[Curly]

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

it was hardly the crime of the century, was it.

[Classic Jorge]

On the subject of him, following the absolute lack of class he displayed in leaving I find it impossible to wish him well or be happy for him in any success he achieves.

In many ways I am a small, petty man Monty.

[Monty91]

I'm not sure we can definitively say he was an arsehole for releasing that statement (which, it's worth noting, merely said what everyone in the world knew already).

For all we know, the club promised him he could leave last summer before changing their minds, putting him into a position where he felt he had to force the move.

[devongunner]

[Classic Jorge]

He left us Mont, he f**ked us. His family were happy, we'd stuck by him though a very dodgy injury record, the team was built around him and he was captain and still, still he f**ked us.

f**k him, I hope his ligaments, tendons and bones all simultaneously snap and he has to communicate by eye blinks for the rest of his life.

[Monty91]

Not a bad parting gift

[Classic Jorge]

I'd argue that's the least he couldve done

[Bergkamp's Brain]

Actually I couldn't really careless. He (and/or agent) calculated his way out of the club and that displayed a lack of feeling for the club.

Now that he has gone, we should move on. I certainly will not wish him any luck, nor will I feel any sense of pride at him winning the title with ManU, which he certainly will this season.

[barrybueno]

[Classic Jorge]

"You must be really happy to win this title Robin"

*blink, blink*

"Do you give a f**k about your old club or manager who you f**ked in the arse?"

*blink*

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v =WMPM1q_Uyxc#t=43s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WMPM1q_Uyxc#t=43s)

[The Tony]

Its probably the possiblity of him ending his career at Old Trafford that's hurting some ie all that once a red devil always a red devil malarky.

[Monty91]

forfeit the final chance of my career to join the biggest club in the world and win some trophies, and instead retire from football with a single FA cup winners medal to my name.

[barrybueno]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

It is not as if you had anything to do with his life or career..... unless he develops some incurable sickness :-)

[Classic Jorge]

Like any cynic, I'm just a hopeless romantic whose hopes and dreams were dashed on the rocks of betrayal and disappointment too many times.

[Monty91]

winning other than pride?

[Monty91]

you've fallen out of love with.

Our ambition should be to become a club that can one day fulfill the hopes and dreams of players for their entire career. That we are not there yet is no-one's fault, and certainly not the fault of players who choose to leave us for bigger and better clubs.

[Classic Jorge]

Actually, it's *******s without respect.

Much like the anti wenger brigade, I simply must apportion blame somewhere. It seems logical to me to blame the fifth columnists who undermined the whole thing.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

We feel pride in Arsenal doing well because we are associated with Arsenal.

The only people that would show "pride" for RvP are those that were involved in his development, i.e. those who got him to this point. Wenger, yes, his coach at Feyenoord, yes, Colin Lewin :-), perhaps.... Monty of Cricklewood?

[barrybueno]

have one fully fit decent season in about 8 then saying you want to join one of the clubs most hated teams is c**tish. He's basically spat in Wenger and every Arsenal fans faces. Wenger's a c**t for being a soft pushover and just nodding his head to it as well. 2 c**ts dont make a right imo

[Monty91]

Secondly, would you think it was strange if a fan of a lower league club felt a sense of pride at seeing one of their players make it to the top level?

[Luis Anaconda]

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=533636 &mid=3637759&rid=167&S=3409c19adc46c18e863eb6705 63ee608&rev=&reveal= (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=533636&mid=3637759&rid=167&S=3409c19adc46c18e863eb670563ee608&rev=&reveal=)

[Twat Cuddles]

to sit and fight for 4th place all season. If people want to be angry. Don't blame RvP blame our boardroom. Simple as...

[Classic Jorge]

I know you said "Simple as..." but I felt this needed some further explanation on your part

[eastgermanautos]

[Twat Cuddles]

[Classic Jorge]

They'd stuck with him through his torrid injury record, they'd built the team around him - a team which had just finished third and got to the CL Qtr finals, they'd made him captain, not to mention the fact his family were happy and settled in London.

So thats a fairly compelling list, isnt it?

Also, you've not explained why the board should be blamed for a player's decision. Do you blame the board for Nasri or Adebayor leaving too? I'm just struggling with your logic here.

[redgunamo]

We can't treat players as commodities when it suits us and then get all emotional on them when it doesn't.

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]