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Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 12:57 PM
Harrogate in North Yorkshire is the UK's happiest town, while nine out of 10 of the grimmest places to live are in London, according to property website Rightmove.

Researchers quizzed 40,000 people on 12 different factors such as neighbourliness, safety, amenities, cost, and the amount of space they have in their home, and the affluent Victorian spa town of Harrogate came top.

Second happiest was another northern town, Stockport in Greater Manchester, whose postcode area encompasses Alderley Edge, Buxton and Cheadle. Meanwhile, to borrow from the Private Eye cartoon strip, it's grim up north London, although east London ranked lowest overall.

Ilford, on the eastern edges of the capital, was ranked as the ugliest for home decor, while Croydon in south London was worst for neighbourliness. Even west London, covering wealthy areas such as Chiswick, was in the bottom 10 for the UK.

Overall, people living in the north are happier than those living in the south, according to Rightmove's ranking.

Harrogate did not rank highest on any individual measure, but came top by virtue of its residents feeling happy across a broad range of factors. Harrogate MP Andrew Jones said: "I think it is about the sense of community in the town. It's also a very down to earth place. There are lots of really good businesses which have grown organically and sensibly with little boom and bust. Youth unemployment in Harrogate is only 2.5%."

At one of Harrogate's most popular attractions, Betty's cafe, manager Hazel Bone enthused about the town's delights.

"It is a lovely town with a really good feeling and atmosphere," she said. "There is a beautiful town centre with Victorian architecture, lovely attractions such as the Roman Baths, nice shops and lots of great places to eat.

"The town is well looked after and for me it has such a feeling of home that, having worked with Bettys for the past 18 years, I am finally moving here."

But the town of 74,000 is not without its drawbacks. Locals complain about poor rail links, crowded roads and problems with helping the growing number of elderly in the area. House prices are also a concern, with the average detached home now selling for about £380,000 and Georgian townhouses fetching significantly more than £1m.

In the centre of Stockport there was mild surprise that the area is the second happiest place in Britain. Landlord of the Chestergate pub, Stuart Pike, 49, said: "It's not bad I suppose – it's not a troublesome area and the people are pleasant, but it has no nightlife." Across the road, under the neon glow of the Plaza cinema, deputy manager Peter Johnson, 51, said he appreciated the location: "It's not far from the countryside, Manchester is only five or six miles away, and it's close to the airport. I love living here."

Younger adults didn't quite agree. Michael Regan, 23, who lived in Stockport during his teenage years, said: "About all there is is a Megabowl and a McDonalds. It's been pretty hard hit by the recession too. You walk through the town centre and half the shops and pubs have closed down in the past five years."

But council leader Sue Derbyshire was upbeat. "It came as no surprise to me whatsoever to see that Stockport had been rated as the second happiest place in Britain to live.

"Stockport has a thriving business community, excellent transport links, offers high quality education, has an historic market and can boast some of the best tourist attractions in the region, including Bramall Hall and the air raid shelters. All of this will have greatly contributed to making Stockport such a happy place to live."

Explaining the reasoning behind the research, a spokesman for Rightmove said: "We felt that various house price index data reports say prices in a location have gone up/down etc, but don't actually tell real people whether that location would make for a happy place to live … which feels like quite important information when choosing somewhere to live."

He said Rightmove had excluded locations where the sample size was fewer than 80, and grouped some locations by their postcode area.

Britain's happiest places to live

1. Harrogate

2. Stockport

3. Ipswich

4. Exeter

5. St Albans

6. Kingston upon Thames

7. Bath

8. Worcester

9. Bromley

10. Truro

Britain's unhappiest places to live

1. East London

2. Croydon

3. East central London

4. Ilford

5. South-east London

6. Enfield

7. North-west London

8. West London

9. Dudley

10. North London

Source: Rightmove.co.uk

Luis Anaconda
03-27-2013, 12:59 PM

Monty91
03-27-2013, 01:00 PM
Still not looking forward to it.

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:02 PM
I only live a few miles down the road

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:03 PM

Monty91
03-27-2013, 01:06 PM

Snin
03-27-2013, 01:06 PM

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:16 PM
and are the worst places to live (Croydon might as well be East London)? Worse than Stoke, Doncaster, Rotherham, Darlington, S****horpe and Grimsby?

barrybueno
03-27-2013, 01:17 PM
P.S. :hehe: at Croydon

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:17 PM
Wakefield I can confidently suggest that not everything is as that smug, stupid and irritating little survey suggests. Even in the piece it admits that there is precisely f**k-all to do in Stockport.

I was particularly impressed with the unique local strand of DNA in Huddersfield which leaves about 30% of the women looking like John Terry.

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:17 PM

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:21 PM

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:21 PM
That is like somewaon saying that he lives down the road from Hampstead (in Cricklewood)

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:24 PM
On the same trip I drove through Rotherham and Doncaster :-( :-(

I was never so pleased to see the A1(M) heading south and a sign pointing out the way to London

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:25 PM
This isnt a boast btw, I self identify as Bradford

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:25 PM
that goes on till 4am, if you're intending to get up and about the next day.

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:26 PM

Monty91
03-27-2013, 01:27 PM
http://www.no1harrogate.com/

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:27 PM
I like the John Terry bit btw

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:28 PM

Hillary
03-27-2013, 01:30 PM

Luis Anaconda
03-27-2013, 01:32 PM
Probably didn't understand the questions tbf

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:33 PM
I mean, what rightmove would gain from publishing disparaging results about their primary market is anybody's guess. Northern conspiracy?

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:33 PM
they sort the answer and not to understand the question?

Bergkamp's Brain
03-27-2013, 01:34 PM

Hillary
03-27-2013, 01:35 PM
"Stockport has a thriving business community, excellent transport links, offers high quality education, has an historic market and can boast some of the best tourist attractions in the region, including Bramall Hall and the air raid shelters. All of this will have greatly contributed to making Stockport such a happy place to live."

Those air raid shelters sound magnificent :hehe:

Hillary
03-27-2013, 01:36 PM

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:38 PM
Anyway, the real sledgehammer is to poor old Dudley.

That accent, now this.

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:40 PM
Loved the massive mill complex in Halifax. Visited the Minster there too. Museum in Rotherham. Visited Sheffield cathedral but most of it was closed for restoration. Upstart church tbh. Likewise Wakefield. Nat Mining Museum was excellent. Tried to get a reaction out of our underground guide, Paul, asking what they thought of Nottinghamshire miners. "I can't comment on politics", he said. "You could be anyone, but all I can tell thee is that Barnsley v Notts Forest is 'ell of a game". Barnsley though. Oh dear, poor Barnsley.

Drove through Leeds on way to York, and spend a couple of days doing all the stuff there before narrowly escaping the snow. Didn't escape getting pharyngitis though. :-(

7evens
03-27-2013, 01:41 PM
I've never actually been to Betty's but my old mum swears by the place.
I have been to Harrogate several times and can confirm it's a great place to visit

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:45 PM
in demand suggests that they don't need to plug the London side of the market.

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:47 PM
I gather JB's has closed down though. :-( A great source of musical pride to have regularly gone down well there, with it's fearsome reputation.

Luis Anaconda
03-27-2013, 01:47 PM
well in a farm outside Stockport. Arsenal related info - it was also the day John Jensen scored his first goal for Arsenal

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:47 PM

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:49 PM

7evens
03-27-2013, 01:50 PM

Ashberto
03-27-2013, 01:56 PM
to distance himself from it.

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:57 PM
Well, apart from Kingston, obvs.

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 01:57 PM

barrybueno
03-27-2013, 02:13 PM

Free SL
03-27-2013, 03:03 PM
after from what I recall of my visits there. That could be different today of course.

Classic Jorge
03-27-2013, 03:25 PM
Although, thats only if you can get over the term 'social roi'