i don,t like cameron but he got it right on this immigration

[modd]

thing when it come to welfare. If i went aboard to live in another country i expect the same tough rules. This includes learning to speak home country language,showing and show your looking for jobs.

[Classic Jorge]

Though it's more one of those policies that look good but dont do much, migrants from within the EU are about 20% as likely to claim benefits in this country as a UK Subject.

Great for the headlines, a nice little sop to the xenophobic little englander small f fascists.

Nigel, is that you?

[Snin]

it's a piss pointless, saving nothing bit of tat type policy to try and keep any more of hisright wing twunts leaving him to ukip...but too little, too late, hes posh dead man wlaking

[Snin]

to sit in the sun and hoover up furiners gdp imo

The largest element of social security expenditure (42 per cent) goes to pensioners. Housing benefit accounts for 20 per cent per cent (and about one fifth of these claimants are in work); 15 per cent goes on children, through child benefit and child tax credit; 8 per cent on disability living allowance, which helps disabled people (both in and out of work) with extra costs; 4 per cent on employment and support allowance to those who cannot work due to sickness or disability; 4 per cent on income support, mainly for single parents, carers and some disabled people; 3 per cent on jobseeker’s allowance; and 2 per cent on carer’s allowance and maternity pay, leaving 3 per cent on other benefits.

[modd]

With mitt Romney thing. Secondly not fair to say those worried about too much immigration are BNP right wing nut balls. thridly yes whole of UK claims too much welfare and it needs to be cut down. But 20% immigrants claims does not help it. But your right more UK born claim it And that must be reduced to save money

[Classic Jorge]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q16o9WsyUN8/TyBsw8YxUbI/AAAAAAAAKuE/ejG4oCHLyGs/s1600/soylent-green.jpg

[modd]

Tackle this. It still not right to claim benefits when living overseas without proving your looking for work. Cameron is stuffed really though. Been a average prime minster

[Classic Jorge]

But they are slightly feeble minded types who have at least given far too much credence to the propaganda spewed by rightwing nutjobs.

[Classic Jorge]

Or, for that matter, the government lying to say that no such thing exists?

[modd]

Need to accept a cutback. We still in s recession and so we got to save money.

[modd]

Too much coverage. Their more of middle view that not covered enough.

[Classic Jorge]

[7evens]

pension pot shortfall :shrug:

Although, someone really needs to explain to the government that the once it's workforce reaches the age of 40, a huge proportion of them are esssentially unemployable.

[Snin]

[modd]

About that. But what's wrong with a job centre wanting people into work and off benefits. That's why its a job centre after all. Get people into work and off benefits

[modd]

One of them. But agree more far right in tv

[Snin]

is like trying to explain close and far away imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0

[modd]

Which cuts down debt

[Pat Vegas]

[barrybueno's mum]

Can I respectfully ask you to read this?

http://sorrelish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/7-reasons-why-you-sh ould-stop-bitching.html (http://sorrelish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/7-reasons-why-you-should-stop-bitching.html)

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2298146/I-refuse-s urrender-Marxist-teachers-hell-bent-destroying-schools-Educa tion-Secretary-berates-new-enemies-promise-opposing-plans.ht ml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2298146/I-refuse-surrender-Marxist-teachers-hell-bent-destroying-schools-Education-Secretary-berates-new-enemies-promise-opposing-plans.html)

[modd]

You very much mistaken. I read up on British politics. To be fair far left at its worst in early 1980s under Michael foot. Good man though he was but awful leader

[modd]

The years

[Classic Jorge]

[modd]

I was even for few months six years ago taking some while unemployed for a short period. I felt like **** for doing so and found job centre was mire keen get me out of their then get a job. I also felt like **** taking money from the taxpayer. I understand why their but we need to reduce the costs of them to save this country.money.

[modd]

And other media views making clear he a socalist

[modd]

That's pushing it to far

[barrybueno's mum]

[modd]

I get rid off all nuceleur weapons. They do nothing but destroy and cost this country loads of money

[modd]

Everyone knows that by now

[barrybueno's mum]

[Classic Jorge]

[modd]

And attract tourists who boost our ecnonmey.

[Classic Jorge]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t2Ry7I5DNuQ/TMaOOLpjVxI/AAAAAAAAF1I/zyiKSUyH2IM/s320/Michael+Gove+3.jpg

[barrybueno's mum]

[Classic Jorge]

And also, they dont really pay taxes like you and I would

[modd]

A know nothing idiot

[modd]

Mp wages which are far too much money for this country.

[Supermac1976]

[modd]

Not immigrants

[Classic Jorge]

http://brightgreenscotland.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/gove_michael_pob-e1293722468110-300x210.jpg

[modd]

Question time you can,t be far left. What about Tony Benn going on or Derek Hatton.

[Classic Jorge]

Ancient Mercian name, Saxe-Coburg-Gotha

[barrybueno's mum]

[Classic Jorge]

[modd]

As far as I know

[7evens]

I can't get excited about it :-|

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

People don't come to our country for the weather now, do they? I very much doubt that the admittedly substantial cost comes close to matching the income we would lose if we didn't have that particular USP.

[modd]

Seems fair to me

[modd]

:rubchin:

[Classic Jorge]

Though you have to wonder whether people would stop coming to gawp at all the trite royal **** if the royals were no longer there, I mean it's not like you get some sort of personal greeting when you go to the palace.

[modd]

Anything that does that can only help.

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

65 grand isn't a huge amount. Offer less money and you get lower standard MPs

[modd]

Served on the frontline.

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

And how much do you think our tourism industry brings in each year?

You shouldn't underestimate how much of a draw the Royals are. The first thing many Americans think of when coming to Europe is stopping in England to see Buckingham Palace and the changing of the guard.

[barrybueno's mum]

[Classic Jorge]

and you'd be right

[modd]

Else. Otherwise they need to be cut off

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

look what they did to their royals

[modd]

At the end of the day

[barrybueno's mum]

stand.

Flight Lieutenant Wales? Captain Harry Wales? Utter establishment protectionist *******s imho.

[Luis Anaconda]

still hardly think they are overpaid

[modd]

Is good by me

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

[Classic Jorge]

I'd rather the electric chair or firing squard

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

[modd]

Any money they earn costing us the taxpayer

[barrybueno's mum]

while those c**ts still swan around in their privilege. F**k em.

[modd]

Be paying them

[Luis Anaconda]

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Although I doubt their positions have been in any way affected by the royal family.

[Classic Jorge]

Your MP leading up the inquiry into press intrusion is Michael Gove, sponsored by News International?

[modd]

Agree on that

[barrybueno's mum]

*yes I know one is a chopper pilot.

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

Unfair that is

[Monty91]

[barrybueno's mum]

[modd]

Money not having to pay mp wages

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[modd]

If we don't pay mp wages we save ourselvees money. Simple as that

[Luis Anaconda]

Who would pay the MPs then?

[Supermac1976]

http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/mithlogogogogogog.jpg

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/should_politicians_be_req uired_to_wear_the_logos_of_their_sponsors (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/should_politicians_be_required_to_wear_the_logos_o f_their_sponsors)

[modd]

We still vote for them. Just means we not pay for their time their. So everyone wins

[Monty91]

that has made it possible for them to pursue a career of their choosing.

[modd]

Mps can be privately paid like any other buisness does.

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

Wages

[Classic Jorge]

I think you've lost the plot here, maud

[barrybueno's mum]

So there. They joined up as it was something both wanted to do - their mother in particular was totally anti.

[modd]

Means I should pay him or he :rubchin:

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

Like any performer in private sector they need to perform for company pays them and those who voted for them. Everyone wins. I not list the plot on this. Makes perfect sense

[modd]

To show why we should pay them

[Luis Anaconda]

You keep referring to the private sector. Government is the very definition of public sector - you must be on the wind up because that is a simple fact that even an idiot can grasp

[Monty91]

which gave them the mental resources to pursue such a demanding career.

Many people who would otherwise make excellent members of the armed forced are denied that opportunity.

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

A wind up
. My point is valid we can vote in mps to give us public service. But does not mean we have to pay them

[Classic Jorge]

Surely they'd want their money's worth and fund a minister in for climate change who could then influence policy in their favour and to the detriment of all of the other companies which were silly enough to fund less well placed people.

Also, how about the causes which dont interest the businesses who fund MPs?

[Luis Anaconda]

[barrybueno's mum]

As it happens they were counselled against it by family and peers which only made stronger their resolve to join up. You know how headstrong teenagers can be, I take it?

[Luis Anaconda]

[Monty91]

[Monty91]

Of course it's common for people in the Army to have pursued their career against their family's wishes. Doesn't change the fact they wouldn't have had the resources to pursue that career without the privileges afforded to them.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

point?

[modd]

we have public servants but don,t have to pay them so much or not pay some at all.

[modd]

or does nothing of note in their local area. then why should we pay them. :rubchin:

[Wembleygooner- raised in hornsey]

less than 10 per cent of those on benefits are foreign born. And if we don’t axe handouts for Brits after six months - because they won’t be able to survive - why penalise migrants? Does this have a whiff of xenophobia, pandering to the UKIP vote?
the fact that migrants can claim actaully means they fulfil the criteria and we are legally bound to support them, in the same way as your carlsberg swilling brits on the costa del sol, cyprus and anywhere else in europe - enjoy full privileges, in addition the focus should be on the middle classes encouraging the black economy and paying out 'cash in hand' ( many MP's amongst those ill wager) in fact I would guess wherever you see manual labour being done - it is by a migrant worker either officially or unofficially - so you see this has more to do with Cameron feeling threatened than economic ruin - see? all that without one swear word :hehe:

[Camp Freddie]