This US drone killing thing, isnt it what they've been doing for years in Afghan, Pakistan and Iraq?

[Classic Jorge]

Oh ****, sorry, it's that it's AMERICANS who are dying.

I see the crucial difference there, it's the perceived difference in what their lives are worth, isnt it?

[bostonbrian]

Right to be read his rights e.t.c. ...can't just be taken out by a drone.He is entitled to due process....govt wanted to ignore that

[Classic Jorge]

Whereas it's completely fine to blow someone to **** if they aren't covered by Freedom Insurance.

I mean, as moral compasses go you have to admit it's drifted some way off course.

[bostonbrian]

In New York the other day....big brother Obama is watching us all :nod:

[seasider7]

by stopping him.

* This stance is only valid under Obama Presidency of course. He is fine with it during Republican Presidencies.

Now WHAT is so different about Obama :rubchin:

[Snin]

[Classic Jorge]

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[Classic Jorge]

Sorry, just struggling with the whole logic of the thing.

[Snin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw9GNz-EYP8

[seasider7]

nuff said.

[Classic Jorge]

Verhoven at his best

[Snin]

[Snin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg3JZJk291I

[bostonbrian]

Usually don't carry American passports..

[Snin]

[seasider7]

throughout history.

[Classic Jorge]

...just as long as they aren't citizens of your country?

I mean seriously, women, children, families, babies all fine. Not a problem at all as long as they aren't in the US.

[bostonbrian]

The patriot act, say nothing when Obama retains the same laws, and more! It's the hypocrisy of it all that rankles.....just like all the dems who want me to pay more taxes but are delinquent themselves! ....geitner, Kerry e.t.c

[Snin]

fairs fair n dat

[bostonbrian]

Loons, targets civilians

[Snin]

obama all backed by same cnuts , once again ron paul was your last chance

[Remi Garde]

That is pretty scary. Afghanistan is still, technically, a war-zone blighted by insurgents. I'm not sure the same can be said about the U.S. That said, it could come in handy during a Tea Party rally.

[Classic Jorge]

As in double standards, right?

[Snin]

first place to replace the commie bogieman...bit your arse and fair nuff

[Snin]

[bostonbrian]

[Remi Garde]

That would be sort of cool, in a kill everyone else and leave me type of way.

[bostonbrian]

[Snin]

see the middle ground

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[bostonbrian]

http://youtu.be/zUpQrv4yd-4

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/u_s_drones_killed_more_afgha n_civilians_in_2012/ (http://www.salon.com/2013/02/19/u_s_drones_killed_more_afghan_civilians_in_2012/)

72% 2012 Rise in drone strikes in Afghanistan, going absolutely unnoticed.

0% Rise in drone strikes in the US, causing a right brouhaha.

[Snin]

iran, china,russia...dont do ****e now..diplomacy? haliburton and robocop rules for you feckers n u cant see it

[Snin]

[Classic Jorge]

What makes one more valuable than the other, seriously I would love to know.

[Remi Garde]

I thought there was some sort of debate on using drones in times of emergency such as a gunman on a rampage. This might as well be a story about people using hot air (sic) balloons more.

This is my first (sic) ever. I hope I've used it properly. Where is Berni when you need your grammar dissecting?

[bostonbrian]

[Classic Jorge]

[bostonbrian]

[Classic Jorge]

[bostonbrian]

[Classic Jorge]

You seem ever so keen to justify it, just really unsure how

[bostonbrian]

It's not just mission accomplished and off we go

[Remi Garde]

I'm not sure mass-shootings count as arbitrary, though.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

Bill O'Reilly said so

[bostonbrian]

[Snin]

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[Remi Garde]

the other day. I know you're our resident fan, but it was one of the most inadvertently comical things I've come across. The line: 'I've seen a security hologram of him..... killing younglings' was my favourite part.

[bostonbrian]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

I think cheekily doing the middle good one was a cracking homage to the first three

[bostonbrian]

Potential tyrannical regime...the current govt deploying drones to kill Americans is seen as an assault on the constitution by many including rhe filibustering Rand Paul...what the govt does in other parts of the world is a separate issue to them.

[Classic Jorge]

It;s not really a separate issue, not if you have any morals.

[bostonbrian]

[Classic Jorge]

[Snin]

the middle class will become the working class..the autonoms ..you fecked

[Chief Arrowhead]

I think we need to meet. San Antonio, is it?

[Chief Arrowhead]

even to the point of tossing out the constitution, with all of those nasty things like trials and reading of the rights and all that nonsense.

It's because someone might be an "imminent threat" to their regime. Someone like ... me.

[Chief Arrowhead]

Remember Clinton deciding to just lob a few cruise missiles thinking that he is "handling" the Iraq situation. Accomplishes no strategic objectives, but makes it look like they are tough.

All of this is just making us look weaker and encouraging Al Qaeda.

But at least he's not a Mormon businessman, eh?

[Chief Arrowhead]

Because he is an Obamabot.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

I was opposed to it under Bush and am opposed to it under Obama.

BUT! When I opposed it under Bush Chief called me a terrorist lover and worse.

So he can take a high fking horse to heaven up the butt. He's only opposed to Obama and he finally found something good.

as soon as a Repub is in office (Yay team!) he'll get the pom poms out again and attack anyone who dares question.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

Projection.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

And wrt to Chief, I predicted his evening earlier that afternoon.

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3652 977&rid=653&S=cdb2bed7c26ca1b5d2055287a7f3e27f (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3652977&rid=653&S=cdb2bed7c26ca1b5d2055287a7f3e27f)

You weren't here then, but he never once, not ONCE, said anything or allowed anyone else to say anything negative about Bush or his policies.

"Why do you hate America? Why do you want the terrorists to win? Why do you support the killing of our troops?" He was incessant.

I have zero respect for the clown.