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Jenko -EE27
01-11-2013, 11:22 AM
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2013-01-11/arsenal -manager-arsene-wenger-defends-ticket-prices/? (http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2013-01-11/arsenal-manager-arsene-wenger-defends-ticket-prices/?)

One Wilf Copping
01-11-2013, 11:30 AM
I wonder what clothes Wenger, our once unreproachable Football Emperor, wore for the interview?

:rubchin:

http://blog.thefoundationstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/emperors-new-clothes.jpg

Times have definitely changed...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41535K7DFVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Nicosia Gooner
01-11-2013, 11:34 AM

Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))
01-11-2013, 11:38 AM

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:38 AM
http://libcom.org/files/imagecache/article/images/blog/ff.jpg

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:38 AM

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 11:39 AM
has said here.....
Arsene Wenger says he is happy with his squad and will only move in the January transfer window if he finds an “exceptional” player.




Arsenal have been linked with a string of players including Barcelona forward David Villa, and have seen their attacking options hit by the Africa Cup of Nations, as forward Gervinho is away with the Ivory Coast.

Wenger, though, maintains he is not about to go out and buy someone this month just for the sake of it.

He said: “If you look at our squad, it’s quite complete. We still work on the transfer market as well.

“However, we do not want to bring in average. We only want to bring in an exceptional player. At the moment we have not found him.”

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:40 AM

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 11:41 AM

Mack
01-11-2013, 11:44 AM
'I am really worried they are high for our supporters. For the visitors, it only happens once per year, so that is less of a concern.'
You really should have read the article.

Red N White Army
01-11-2013, 11:48 AM

Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))
01-11-2013, 11:49 AM
Me-thinks Wenger just does not fully understand the meaning of the word "Exceptional"

:hehe:

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:50 AM
You just want a manager who does all his business through the press

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:51 AM

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 11:51 AM

Monty91
01-11-2013, 11:52 AM
because you actually think it's clever/funny?

Monty91
01-11-2013, 11:55 AM

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 11:56 AM

Monty91
01-11-2013, 11:58 AM
alongside his bad substitutions, whatever that means.

Classic Jorge
01-11-2013, 11:59 AM
1. Journalist asks about signings

2. Arsene fobs him off

3. Fob off comments from Arsene gets reported

This wont change

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 12:00 PM

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 12:01 PM

Monty91
01-11-2013, 12:04 PM
to buy any "outstanding" players, what's your theory on why we haven't slipped hopelessly into midtable or beyond, or is that what's coming?

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 12:20 PM
performances we have managed this season? also a club of stature and obvious resources have under achieved in the last 8 seasons. Oh unless that old qualification for CL trophy counts.

Monty91
01-11-2013, 12:29 PM
even if you consider extraneous the fact that moving stadium did unquestionably impact our financial clout and the arrival of a second billionaire on the premiership landscape, consistently finishing in the top 3/4 is not, I think, to be sniffed at.

I would probably agree that we've underachieved in the domestic cups, and should have picked up at least one over those 8 years, which of course would have been nice, albeit not necessarily the catalyst for bigger successes that people assume (see: Spurs, Liverpool and Birmingham).

Should we have done better in the Champions League? Well, in the past four years we've been knocked out by Barca Man Utd and Milan, but then we've also been knocked out by a beatable Chelsea and PSV. down the years. So perhaps yes, we have underachieved in that competition.

So we are not in total disagreement.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
01-11-2013, 12:34 PM

Monty91
01-11-2013, 12:37 PM
all clubs are perpetual underachievers.

Man City could have won the league last season by a larger margin = underachievers :shrug:

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 12:40 PM
cups and because of some negative tactics wehave gone out sooner than we should have in several seasons of the CL. We got lucky with qualification last season and this season unless he streghens some obvious weak areas of the team then we are going to need a larger dose of luck this season to qualify.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
01-11-2013, 12:45 PM
So even to simply qualify each year (from the groups) is an achievement on par with our status. To go out when we have is just how it works. Only one club can win it etc.

To ever win it could be seen as over-achieving.

I just don't think i would ever use the term "under achieve" when describing our history to date, even accounting for the year we could/should have won it (not 2006).

Monty91
01-11-2013, 12:50 PM
criticism and abuse of Wenger looks utterly disproportionate.

Why such extreme bile against a guy who, on balance, and by your own judgement, has not disgraced himself since our last trophy, but merely underachieved in some areas and not in others.

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 12:54 PM
Leading to under achievement of this great club. I dont like him.

He is arrogant, stubborn and makes no sense. He's blind to weaknesses or slow to address them. He has resources but now uses it badly and in some cases has wasted it on dross both in transfer fees and wages.

I dont rate him nor like.

Monty91
01-11-2013, 12:55 PM
if you can extract the required performance from them, and you then lose to them, in the case of Milan last season and perhaps other games too, quite feebly, then you can perhaps be considered to have underachieved - even if you've overachieved in creating that team in the first place. A bit of a paradox, I admit.

Monty91
01-11-2013, 01:01 PM
have done better during the same period.

I guess our only barometer for that is looking at how other managers have done at other clubs striving to challenge the money-driven hegemony.

And with that as our measurement, can you say with ABSOLUTE confidence that another manager would have done better?

redgunamo
01-11-2013, 01:06 PM
It's uncharted waters for a "big club" with no trophies lately.

All this ignores the obvious point but still.

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 01:17 PM
The sell your best player and buy inferior models while banking the surplus wouldn't be beyond many managers imo. But that is very much my opinion only.

Monty91
01-11-2013, 01:29 PM
We did replace Nasri with an inferior model and I can understand criticism laid at Wenger's door for that (even if the Ox goes on to become a world beater, it was not an adequate replacement at the time).

In the case of Van Persie and Cesc, you can ONLY replace them with inferior models. It is unrealistic to have expected us to buy players of equal quality.

In Cesc's case (which I like saying because it sounds like "sex case") we, as an immediate solution, bought Arteta and then the following summer Cazorla for around 20 million. I think that's acceptable.

In Van Persie's case, again, it's impossible for us to buy a player as good as that. Instead we bought Podolski and Giroud - one established in a big league, the other not, but both of significant calibre. Again, I think that's acceptable.

Agree or disagree?

East Upper for Supper
01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
For several sesson of which stubbornness or simply neglect seem to be of his own unique doing.

Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))
01-11-2013, 01:38 PM
:****er:

Monty91
01-11-2013, 01:49 PM
especially after ending a season potless.