Is Ross Noble always an embarrassingly unfunny cùnt, or was his TV Apollo set

[Ashberto]

a one-off lack of material with hopeless improvisation?

By contrast, I was very impressed by Rich Hall.

[Classic Jorge]

It's strange, we've not cracked the culture of the HBO special over here. I'd be interested to know exactly how much censorship goes into it, or whether it's more a case of self-censorship by the comedian.

[Monty91]

You can judge their principles, though. Once they've decided to be on TV, they've basically shat their entire artistic freedom down the toilet in exchange for the chance to become commercially successful.

Pretty sure Noble is an unfunny **** in any context, though.

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[Monty91]

[Ashberto]

as they instantly can't use it live anymore, but surely you can't fault someone making a decision to improve their livelihood. You don't with footballers.

[sodd]

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/furious.gif

[Classic Jorge]

[Mc Gooner]

I wouldn't go as far as to wish Apollo 13 on him but he's certainly not ROFL or LMFAO standard http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[Monty91]

TV work will be at best interferred with, and at worst dictated, by your TV bosses.

Of course I don't fault them for trying to make a better living for themselves. But it is nevertheless undeniably a compromising of your art, and therefore a dropping of your principles. (I do artists the honour of assuming most of them are at least initially driven by principles).

[Ashberto]

when people actually paid for it.

[Classic Jorge]

What do you like, McG?

[JJSB]

Though who's to say the act is being compromised, or indeed there is selling out going on. Nothing noble about struggling when you don't have to.
And a comedian's aim is to make lots of people laugh, well TV exposure helps a lot in that respect

[Classic Jorge]

Stuart Lee, for instance

[redgunamo]

Although, that's a noble principle too, of course.

[Classic Jorge]

[sodd]

['Neg]

the officially non-racist Scottish comedian http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/cloudnine.gif

[Monty91]

others to have done it.

Daniel Kitson's never been on TV (Phoenix Nights aside, which he quit after accusing it of racism), never does interviews, never been ona chat show, never sold a DVD, barely nothing of him on YouTube, never charges more than a tenner for a gig (sometimes as little as £3 quid), and is the best stand up in the world bar none.

[PSRB]

[JJSB]

[Monty91]

[Classic Jorge]

It seems like compromise is a lot greater over here for some reason, of course Louis CK has changed a lot of stuff with his Indie Self Funded model being hugely successful, but it just doesnt seem to be the same over here.

[redgunamo]

[Monty91]

Harder for us to sell our stuff over there, despite evidence of recent success. Armando Ianucci gave a great public speech about this kind of stuff recently, available on line somewhere.

[Mc Gooner]

Kevin Bridges
Micky Flanagan
Lee Mack
Alan Carr (stand up, not the Chatty man ****)
Sean Lock

There will be others but that's enough to be going on with

[Monty91]

you might be tempted to suggest beggars can't be choosers.


http://www.cityam.com/sites/default/files/articles/020-daniel-kitson.jpg?1343981730

[sodd]

[Classic Jorge]

Micky Flanagan and Sean Lock I'll give you

[Monty91]

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

you surely want to do the best for her and her kiddies, don't you?

I mean, personally, I am extremely cheap to board, feed and clothe. However, my five-year old daughter is on about her sixth iPad http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

[JJSB]

be it a book on Amazon, a music video or comedy routine on You Tube. Ok stuff still needs to be approved for TV, but the people decide more than ever now what they like, it's more organic and if it reaches enough of a popularity level, mainstream exposure follows

[sodd]

[PSRB]

I actually don't mind most of them and can't think of any I actively dislike

[sodd]

[Classic Jorge]

[Mc Gooner]

I don't go for any particular band/genre. A choon is either catchy and a toe-tapper or it ain't http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/music.gif

Same as with comedy really but those on the list generally make be http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[Monty91]

could, I think, be very wealthy indeed but chooses not to be.

I guess some people find the compromises required to earn more money impossible to stomach. Or maybe they're just scared of confronting the fragility of their own principles.

I would not be inclined to condemn, though.

[sodd]

[Monty91]

[redgunamo]

[Mc Gooner]

Does a lot of 'observations on life' stuff which I generally prefer

[Pat Vegas]

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[redgunamo]

They never actually put it like that though, so I gather.

[PSRB]

I wouldn't go out of my way to watch him but he's quite funny in parts. My sense of humour is very varied, never found Dawn French very funny though and Vicar of Dibley was positively hateful

[sodd]

Having said that, Flanagan shouts a bit, but not to the point of excess.

[Classic Jorge]

There are some very funny posh stand ups imo, Jack Whitehall and Richard Herring for starters.

[JJSB]

[Mc Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

The Mary Whitehouse Experience were the first comedians to play wembley arena, I was there, and they were still great.

But, just as with any stadium gig, it's ****e compared to a gig in a more intimate venue

[Mc Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

[redgunamo]

[PSRB]

still like Hugh Dennis

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

Not to mention the eminently machine-gunnable wobbly voice.

[sodd]

Spoke abouth how he blagged his way into the press-box for some major cricket match.
the subject was fake identity in the wake of that hilariously abysmal HM Queen impersonation by that Aussie radio station.

[Luis Anaconda]

observational comedy down to its lowest common denominator. I was forced to watch his Christmas show last year and nearly everything he said I had heard similar from often quite unfunny people down the pub or in the office. It's not pointing something out that makes you think "oh yeah, I hadn't noticed that before but its true type", it's haha isn't that blatantly obviously funny thing funny. I don't deny he is very very good at doing what he does but I more blame the people for laughing so hard at him. And he is a Spurs fan http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/judge.gif

[redgunamo]

[PSRB]

I was crying laughing

Some his stuff is a bit dated now but most of it still stands up well

[sodd]

[PSRB]

[Hillary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8H9Ecilac