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damage
12-01-2012, 10:06 PM
1. I am starting to really think AW will go this season.
2. Bradford game most important this season.
3. Try to remember how good we have had it. We have over achieved in recent years. 15 years in CL .........
Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))
12-01-2012, 10:09 PM
The other 14 years have really only benefited the Arsenal board in making themselves and also Wenger - very, very rich.
Ronaldooooooo
12-01-2012, 10:09 PM
Ciaran
12-01-2012, 10:10 PM
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:10 PM
Much worse.
damage
12-01-2012, 10:14 PM
Bergkamp's Brain
12-01-2012, 10:14 PM
we have the 4th highest wage bill, therefore finishing 4th is the absolute minimum. We never over achieved, we had good players and a manager that allowed them to think. Having good and intelligent players working together and thinking about the game was always likely to earn success.

Now, we do not have players with the same level of ability and maturity, so it needs the manager to take more responsibility and make this team harder to beat.
Ciaran
12-01-2012, 10:16 PM
Peter
12-01-2012, 10:20 PM
It isnt completly true, bu there you go http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

Essentially the club have been on a downward slope for a while now. A gentle slope admittedly, but it has got worse in the last few years. Wenger isnt a magician, he cant turn it around, not this time.

It needs a complete re-think, financilly. Money for transfers and paying players what they are worth. Its a slow process.

I honestly think wenger has had enough. I can see him leaving this summer.
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:20 PM
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:31 PM
Regardless of how His team was doing, I mean.
Ciaran
12-01-2012, 10:32 PM
Bergkamp's Brain
12-01-2012, 10:37 PM
yes this decline has been going for some time. However, I do think that we should have won the league in 08 and in 10/11 we were in it up until the last few weeks.

For me, the day we agreed to sell Cesc was the beginning of the end.
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))
12-01-2012, 10:39 PM
But we have lots of 4th place trophies...and as Wangker recently mentioned....getting into the knock-out stages is also like a trophy...
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:44 PM
Bergkamp's Brain
12-01-2012, 10:51 PM
a world class midfielder who is insanely good at reading the game and was dominating games like a 30 year old, at the age of 19, is somewhat harder to replace, impossible, even.
redgunamo
12-01-2012, 10:54 PM
Far more important to the Arsenal Football Club than any hireling.