Another problem is, wenger used to be astute in the transfer market. Buying top quality

[o2be a gooner]

On cheap. That was his thing. That has totally changed. He has wasted so much money in recent years on absolute rubbish. Why can't we get rid of chamakh, arshavin, djourou - because they are high earners. Picking up the fans money each week after doing f**k all. Why would they want to leave?

Park at 6m or whatever http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/banghead.gif what's happened to our scouting system?

[Camp Freddie]

...more money!

[o2be a gooner]

If we offered michus old club2.5 m I'm sure he would've jouned us ahea of Swansea

[East Upper for Supper]

Chrome domed c**t.

[Camp Freddie]

...but aside from the odd gem that could be plucked out of the ether for a pittance, I'm not sure Wenger has had enough to play with...

[plastic james]

those who who know the value of football transfers said it equals 27 million today

which means wiltord who was a useful player and coased us 12 million would be about the same if not closer to 30

then pires was a 7 million signing would be 17 million

thats front 3 of more than 70 million .....can you see us doing that today?

if pires or henry was available today chelsea and man city would get them, just like city, united, chelsea all made 32 million bids for hazard. and we run away

yes vieira was a bargain, but he was a youngster, incorporated into a team of men

ppl talk about michu, who is a bargain, but we had a bargain in petit and toure, you can find one or two bargains, but you cant build a squad of champions like that, which is why swansea with their michu are 8th or 9th

at the end of the day, a certain amount of money must be spent ona championship winning squad....then we can talk about if we have the right manager in place or not

[East Upper for Supper]

[redgunamo]

That was always the point; we don't buy superstars, we make them. They all did their best work, up to that point, for us.

We made them, just like we hope to do with some of this lot. Nothing has changed there.

[Holmes]

Lost the f**king plot! Vela, denilson, bentner, gervino, etc etc, and what do we have left to play on the field sgainst f**king swansea!!?
Hectic schedule with an average 16 man team means a miserable month ahead I fear

[Camp Freddie]

..get their act together. I'm not saying Wenger is blameless, nor that his time is not maybe up. Just that there are issues that run through the club, that won't be resolved by his departure.

[plastic james]

lets not forget we broke the british transfer record to get bergkamp

imagine us breaking the british transfer record now for a striker nd partnering him with a striker valued 27 million

the henry-bergkamp partnership wasnt exactly cheap was it?

[East Upper for Supper]

[Camp Freddie]

[redgunamo]

In fact, we are better placed financially than we've ever been. Juve bought our best player in 1980 and trebled his wages. Now, they can't even pay us proper money for one of our cast offs.

[East Upper for Supper]

Of play. He's lost it and should go.

[plastic james]

but some decent investment were made. compare our previous spending and our spending of late.

never mind city and chelsea, look at the difference between us, manu, liverpool, spurs and villa between the two periods


Premiership net spending
1992-2003

1 - Newcastle 97 million
2 - manu 90 million
3- Liverpool 90 million
4- Chelsea 70 million
5- man city 65 million
6- Tottenham 65 million
7- Fulham 54 million
8- Everton 54 million
9- Arsenal 45 million
10- aston villa 43 million

Premiership net spending
2003-2012.

1- chelsea 527 million
2- man city 434 million
3- Liverpool 157 million
4- Manu 128 million
5- Aston villa 106 million
6- Tottenham 97 million
7- Stoke 73 million
8- Sunderland 70 million
9- Qpr 50 million
10- West ham 35 million
11- WBA 29 million
12- Fulham 27 million
13- Norwich 10 million
14- Everton 5 million
15- Newcastle 4 million
16- Swansea 2 million
17- Wigan 135 thousand
18- Southampton - 7 million ( 7 million in profit)
19- Reading - 8 million ( 8 million in profit)
20- Arsenal -23 million ( 23 million in profit)

[redgunamo]

We've invested plenty in this squad but, when all is said and done, either these players are good enough to win us the league or they are not.

[plastic james]

they could still get top 4 though.

what i'm woried about is what if wenger continues to lose will the board keep him til the end of the season....and how would these players react to a leaving manager?

and if he's let go, who is ready now,

i see no benefit in us missing out on the top 4, because some people want drastic changes at the club. i think the board has alot on their hands if this situation gets chaotic. lets hope wenger regains control of the situation and the fans.

[redgunamo]

wage-bill in 1991.

[plastic james]

[redgunamo]

Fourth-highest bar-bill perhaps http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/rubchin.gif

[plastic james]

and our transfer outlay from the past years. getting 1 or 2 names exited me enough for the season. ...even 5 or 6 years ago, i never cared how much we spent. i blame chelsea and city

[redgunamo]

before Chelsea and Manchester City came along, so that's wrong, I reckon.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[plastic james]

he's made us to accountants, all we wanted was to watch a game of football http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/cry.gif

[redgunamo]