The whole we want our Arsenal back thing - what exactly do they mean?

[Hillary]

At which point was it "our Arsenal" I mean, which period would they like to return to?

[Monty91]

Though i'm not sure disagreeing with Wenger's substitutions actually constitutes being a disgruntled fan.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

a proper football team not an acquisition for a guy who spends $150 million on a ranch but has been to 1 home game since he became the majority shareholder.

[Monty91]

[Free SL]

PHW goes to them all, yet is hated by a lot of Arsenal fans.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

At least he likes football.

[Hillary]

[Hillary]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

should win or challenge for trophies. Bearing in mind the cost of tickets, food, souvenirs and so on it is a legitimate expectation that the club should be in a financially competitive position where investment is made on players.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Free SL]

and is given support financially (to a level that the club can afford) then Stan is doing everything he should be expected to do.

[Free SL]

We have challenged for trophies, we just haven't won them

Or does getting to Semi Finals/Finals, being in the title race until March/April not count as challenging?

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

who can play the football we've played for most of a decade and a half and that's my Arsenal yes. Glorious failures by playing wonderful football and the occasional trophy (won however) will do me nicely.

[Free SL]

of City/Chelsea where the owner ploughs in his own cash to hopefully win something?

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

on huge contracts and the players are just dross.

Our wage bill is £52M per year more than 5pur2 and is not far off from Manure's wage bill.

We HAVE the money. It's just that Wenger spunks it on young prospects and sick-notes...

We wrote off £5M for that S.Korean player.

[Free SL]

but if we can see we're that close, then so can the manager/club.

The only conclusion to be drawn from that is that the money isn't available, because if it was and we were that close the manager would be under pressure from Stan/Ivan/PHW to put a pot on the sideboard by spending a bit more.

I think criticism of Stan, is a bit harsh here. Just because Abramovich/Mansoor plough hundreds of millions in to their club, it doesn't make him duty bound to do the same.

[Hillary]

[Free SL]

and ramped up their contracts in the hope they would come good, a lot of those players are coming to the end of their contracts over the next year or 2.

Funnily enough, one of the players that would have been lumped into that group this time last year is now a player everyone is desperate to keep.

[Hillary]

I don't think we've changed too much as a club, but the difference is Chelsea and, now, Man City. Not only have they as much money as they want to spend on players, but they have actually signed the sorts of players that Wenger would have ordinarily been able to sign. It's not difficult to imagine Hazard signing for us a few years ago - now, not a chance.

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

Gervinho, Arshavin, Ju Young Park.....

(However - I do like Arshavin and Rosick but meerkat has lost it and TR7 is also one of the walking dead)...

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NB: 4TH highest wage bill in the Premiership and most is spunked on dross!

That is fcuking amazing financial prudence from Wenger....

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[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

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[Dorset Gooner]

attend. They don't force us.

[Dorset Gooner]

[Free SL]

and we generally finish 4th or better

[Hillary]

hasn't got a squad full of dross.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

imprudent. Which is it?

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

Good luck to them.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

The only thing we know is the total club salary and the fact that we are 4th highest spenders on wages.

[Snin]

[Hillary]

[Snin]

[Monty91]

5 points? 10 points? 20 points?

[Hillary]

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

And now - with our squad containing less and less good quality players - we are going to find it tougher and tougher to win trophies....or finish in the top 4.

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

to a title winning first.

That's my biggest frustration - we are so close.

And for the sake of those 9 or so players in the squad that are dross - we could have 3 or 4 excellent players instead...

[Hillary]

[Monty91]

think Wenger, and indeed the club, deserves at least some credit for putting us in such a position, given the teams we are "so close" to are so much bigger and, in two cases, bankrolled by billionaires?

[The Tony]

and still thumped Sparta Prague.

Ahhhh those were those.

Who would've thought a Right Wing Back for Ukraine and a short arse right back for Argentina could do that for us??

Vivas was the man. The Elbow on Nicky Butt...he actually had to jump to land it. The time he manned up vs Charlton and took a penalty for us. No one wanted to. He just walked up, took the ball and took it. It was saved. But still pleased he manned up.

[The Tony]

[East Upper for Supper]

[The Tony]

[Hillary]

My favourite time of watching Arsenal was back when we had Tommy Caton playing centre back and Paul Mariner in midfield. I have never enjoyed going to matches as much as I did in those days. That was very much 'my Arsenal' if I had to be truthful.

[Dorset Gooner]

[Hillary]

[Hillary]

[East Upper for Supper]

Hudson and Ball were our International super stars.

[Dorset Gooner]

[East Upper for Supper]

[Hillary]

[East Upper for Supper]

[Hillary]

[sodd]

One arrived as the other left.

[East Upper for Supper]

Boy we were **** but we loved The Arsenal of that era. Highbury.....oh the memories. I want my Arsenal back.

[East Upper for Supper]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[sodd]

Then we went and promptly sold Ball which scuppered that and choked him!
From what I've read, there was a bit of a 'personality clash' with Neill.

[East Upper for Supper]

but this was the sort of big name signing that got people through the turnstiles despite the fact that a trophy was as likely as a lottery win.

[Pat Vegas]

I suspect that means I'd have to leave.

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[Goonerjae]

[East Upper for Supper]

Ian Wright ww, players with character. How many of the current bunch of c**ts have a modicule of character?

[Free SL]

especially that season (86/87 I think) when he scored loads of goals. Remember him being chopped down at White Hart Lane right on the edge of the box, Paul Davis smashed the free kick through the wall and past Clemence. I think it was the 100th Derby.

[Free SL]

he ran onto it and toe poked it past the keeper

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[East Upper for Supper]

[East Upper for Supper]

[sodd]

[Monty91]

[sodd]

[Hillary]

[East Upper for Supper]

home. Caught on camera.

[Monty91]

Johnny Harton alongside him also giving them some stick.

[East Upper for Supper]

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

which are un-doing all the earlier good work.

That is the tragedy Monty...

All the earlier hard-work will have been for nothing.

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[East Upper for Supper]

retard

[Brentwood]

They will sell it for 25 quid. You can't tell me that you think that is expensive?

[sodd]

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[David Pleat AHADF (Royal Welsher and monkey lover)]

[Hillary]

[East Upper for Supper]

[sodd]

Sunderland, who was on the right of midfield was just coming back from a stress fracture, so it was really just Hudson and Price who were A1 in midfield and eventually they became overwhelmed.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Always seemed to be so on Cup Final day.

Climate change you see.

[Hillary]

[Goonerjae]

toffs and squares (Tarquins, cuthberts and fackin ruperts) who see it as a fashionable thing to go the to arsenal tottenham game, not fans imo.

its wasnt like that in the ol' north lower!

[Peter]

If it wasnt all aimed at thenew guy raer than the owner who actually makes the decisions they are complaining about.

You never hear a word against him do you. Oh no. They dont want THAT chelsea back http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[Goonerjae]

[Classic Jorge]

[Camp Freddie]

[Free SL]

I know quite a few old "faces" (for want of a better way to describe them) that sit in the Upper. Every time I have sat up there it's been full of "normal" people.

[Free SL]

We still went unbeaten in the League, won 3 titles, 3 FA Cups and 2 doubles (OK some of that list overlaps, but we were still there watching it happen)

Nothing will ever make that mean nothing.