PC out of control in UK. Speech crimes investigated with vigor on a weekly basis. At some point...

[Selkey - Wenger's hairpiece is a masterstroke]

Everyone in the UK will have to say the exact same thing or risk persecution. Goodbye fleeting individuality.

Thoughts? Opinions? In US we value the right to call anyone anything.

[Mc Gooner]

And **** is putting it mildly tbh

[Chief Arrowhead]

Government as arbiter of behaviour and decider of who wins and who loses was recently affirmed in the November elections. We're catching up fast.

[Camp Freddie]

[Chief Arrowhead]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378070/free-speech-man-arrested- for-burning-poppy-photo (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/378070/free-speech-man-arrested-for-burning-poppy-photo)

[Chief Arrowhead]

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Chief Arrowhead]

http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/nation_world/in-uk-twitter -facebook-rants-land-some-in-jail/image_64be75ec-8c46-58e3-b 0d2-3fa8ab3fc91b.html/?mode=gallery (http://www.dailyastorian.com/news/nation_world/in-uk-twitter-facebook-rants-land-some-in-jail/image_64be75ec-8c46-58e3-b0d2-3fa8ab3fc91b.html/?mode=gallery)

The Leveson Report coming out on Thursday will must likely present statutory regulations of the press.

the more I look the more troubling incidents I find.

But, you are a Statist so things like this don't bother you.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Chief Arrowhead]

http://rt.com/news/uk-free-speech-section-5-058/

The Russians commenting on the Reform Section 5 campaign. lol, when the russkies mock it must be bad.

[Camp Freddie]

Nor am I in favour of unchecked press power. I think you will find that Leveson targeted media corporations which run the right wing press, who seem to share the same views about free speech as you!

[Camp Freddie]

[Chief Arrowhead]

Unlike you , where the speech you want supressed and criminalized are ideas that you don't agree with. Just like any Statist.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

Actually the one thing I hate about this country is this

If someone breaks into my house, I should be able to beat that person to a pulp without any fear of prosecution of any sort. In fact the person who broke in should compensate me for scraping their remains off my floor.

[Camp Freddie]

...If you believe in unfettered free speech, where anyone can say anything regardless of its effect on others and at times incite violence toward others then that makes you a very dangerous person. Do you think therefore that it is a wholly acceptable use of free speech to call black people *racist term removed*s or characterise Jewish people as money grabbing vermin...

[Supermac1976]

http://youtu.be/2T6eJEJZHzo

[Mc Gooner]

Not sure democracy comes into that. Or should for that matter

[Chief Arrowhead]

many people confuse that. They say, "Hey, I called my Boss a flaming asshole and he fired me, what about free speech?"

The answer of course is, yes you had the right to say it. Your Boss also had the right to act on that speech. NOw, if the Boss reported you to a governmental authority and they arrested you, then you have a case.

YOur last comment sounds downright conservative there, B&B http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/yikes.gif

[Bergkamp's Brain]

I don't think I should have a gun to do it, but I should be able to defend my home at any cost.

But back on topic... as I said originally, try bad mouthing America in public, repeatedly, and see how your life will change? If there is one thing Americans will not tolerate and that is bad mouthing America.

[Camp Freddie]

[Chief Arrowhead]

You use those terms and you could be fired, ostracized, etc., but to have the government punish people for what they say is a slippery slope that leads to only punishing what the government thinks is bad.

I think you and Pol Pot would have got along famously, CF.

[Chief Arrowhead]

You have the freedom to express that sentiment, but then you have to face the consequences. In that case I would be a social leper, scorned by most everyone, perhaps fired from my job. But I would not have the government put me in jail.

[Chief Arrowhead]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

I think my point was that we have every freedom you have and some freedoms that you don't. The only "freedom" that we don't have is the gun thing.

Of course you will correct me on the above http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[Ashberto]

Yorkshiremen and sheep-shagging Welshers? Offensive rap music and its derogatory lyrics about women?

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

You conflate completely different contexts and still come up with absurdities. Should we conclude that calling a black colleague a *racist term removed* at work is OK but it gets you fired; that's the consequence. Equally saying it publicly is fine too! Which, may I ask, is the more repressive act? Governments legislating against racism or bigots exercising their free speech to undermine the security and well being of others.