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Classic Jorge
11-26-2012, 03:23 PM
DICK OUT!

plastic james
11-26-2012, 03:36 PM
Walmart stan who knows about football as much as i know about fishery in peru is supported by this vibrant bunch in his board

Lord Harris of Peckham 70 years old

Peter Hill-Wood 76 years old

Sir Chips Keswick 72 years old

Ken Friar 78 years

Ivan “lets hope FFP can work” Gazidiz

i laugh at the anti wenger brigade who wants wenger sacked. Who is going to sack or hold wenger accountable, who is going to advice him even if he decides to spend the summer poking his nose?

This is a rudderless ship, with an outdated economic model, no footballing vision, a clueless owner and a tired world class manager who cant do everything on his own.

Monty91
11-26-2012, 03:38 PM

7evens
11-26-2012, 03:43 PM
although they may want to advise employment agencies to stop paper sifting candidate applications the moment they reach 40. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/rubchin.gif

plastic james
11-26-2012, 03:44 PM
the make up of this board is a joke, these pensioners need to sleep about 13 hours a day, walmart is stan is gone. all is left is Ivan.


ivan to wenger: boss maybe we should replace song?

wenger: have you managed a football team in your life?

ivan : no boss

wenger: then shut up

ivan: sorry boss, im taking a vacation if you dont need me, i'll be back in 3 weeks

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif like i said, this club is devoid of competent leaders, beside the football coach that is

Monty91
11-26-2012, 03:47 PM

Luis Anaconda
11-26-2012, 03:48 PM

Norn Iron
11-26-2012, 03:48 PM

eastgermanautos
11-26-2012, 03:50 PM
never get there. just a sad fact.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 03:53 PM
Deeper ones even.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 03:55 PM

Rich
11-26-2012, 03:56 PM

PSRB
11-26-2012, 03:57 PM

Monty91
11-26-2012, 03:58 PM

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 03:59 PM

plastic james
11-26-2012, 03:59 PM
they dont hire a bunch of of pensioners

Rich
11-26-2012, 04:00 PM

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 04:03 PM

PSRB
11-26-2012, 04:05 PM
experience counts for a hell of a lot

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:06 PM
who is there to extend their contracts, sell the club to them, convince them that they should commit their future to this club.

in 2001 when we got sol campbell on free, david dein had to spend huge amount of time to convince him, the manager do not have that time, he has games to prepair for every 3 days.

this is why european teams argue a good sporting director is the difference between success and disaster in the transfer market.

JJSB
11-26-2012, 04:11 PM

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:11 PM
its not by chance no one manages to extend our best players contracts. its not a coincidence we're always a player or 2 short..... saying wenger can spend the money if he wants is not good enough, a club of this size should have more active people working to fix issues. its all too passive

Monty91
11-26-2012, 04:14 PM
a middle of then night trip to the pisser.

And that's with going twice before bed!

Would pay good money for a remedy http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/frown.gif

PSRB
11-26-2012, 04:16 PM
but a long-term solution. I said 7 years ago that until all the sponsorships could be renegotiated we'd do well to challenge*. Now over the next 3-4 seasons I'd like to think we'll start to see a more concerted challenge**

*The fact we have actually come close on a couple of occasions and should won at least one trophy is a bonus

**I hadn't however taken into account City, and Roman still being around

Monty91
11-26-2012, 04:22 PM
that City have requested planning permission to build a training facility for the use of other clubs/national teams?

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 04:24 PM
Perhaps He'll take the SD's role Himself when He hangs up His watchcoat.

Maravilloso Marvo
11-26-2012, 04:25 PM
Or in the case of the 3 week holiday, choose to believe the story of a centre forward in the middle of negotiating a move away from the club and using tactics as such to make it happen. It was proved that Gazidis was not on holiday when RvP said he was.

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:26 PM
even though i'm slightly annoyed by kroenke not spending a bit of money as he would get that back when we get clubs worth increases, the general resignation, lack of ideas and drive annoys me more.

i love arsene wenger, i think he's a genius and i hate us to lose him or driven out by mad reactionaries because others are not pulling their weight.

PSRB
11-26-2012, 04:26 PM
redevelop the entire area around the stadium, would have more than enough room for that facility as well

http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2011/september/club-ann ouncement (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/news/club-news/2011/september/club-announcement)

Norn Iron
11-26-2012, 04:26 PM
stadium that holds a few thousand. I watched a video of the plans not that long ago. Very impressive.

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:33 PM
even thought its not called that in england, that was his role.

the good thing about david dein was he was also part owner which gave him the ability to make decisions.

a normal SD director needs his owner to share his vision for progress. a visionary owner can hire a a good sporting director and make it work.

a visionary sporting director can convince his owner to go along with him. however when both are average like in our case (kroenke and gazidiz) the weight falls on the coach/manager which is an impossible task as he needs to prepare the team.

we have over 70 players, including the youngsters, on our books, all have agents, all needs to be met and convinced, then our scouts needs to be met about transfer targets and selling of non performing players needs to be discussed...this is alot of work, no manager has time for this while working on his team in every 3 days.

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 04:39 PM

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 04:40 PM
a Sammer or a Galliani or someone high-profile like that but that doesn't mean that our admin is not up to scratch, does it?

And didn't Mourinho want Valdano removed because he wanted a more streamlined, English style hierarchy at that club, with the manager being in charge of everything? Perhaps that's what Wenger likes too.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 04:41 PM
http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 04:43 PM
http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:44 PM
but i will be buried defending arsene wenger. he has earned my respect and i'm a man of my word.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 04:48 PM

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:49 PM
lets get david moyes, he'll make us champions of the universe

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 04:50 PM
or at the absolute least, improve at doing it over time. Our players don't really improve.

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 04:50 PM
I'm objective to the last.

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:53 PM
real would never let mourinho on his own shoulder all the footballing burden.

he hated voldano.....there was history

beside wenger worked with dein for over a decade no reason why he would/should go solo now

plastic james
11-26-2012, 04:58 PM
not asking why we keep losing our best players? or how does the club plan to compete in this economic environment.

common for the wenger haters is that they fail to see the bigger picture, its always a corner, or a wrong substitution etc.

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 05:03 PM
I'm saying there are a number of people who have responsibilities and Wenger has his area to be responsible for. We do not have any knowledge about what is happening behind the scenes, only that something may or may not be going on. We can only guess and speculate. We can see what is right or wrong on the pitch because that is what we see every week.

Our wage structure is a problem though

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 05:03 PM
It's not a priority for the manager, therefore it's not a priority for the players He signs either.

So where is the improvement going to come from?

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 05:05 PM
That changes things alot.

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 06:46 PM
The fact that he doesn't think it is important is a fundamental flaw. So he does have blame to carry on his shoulders. Corners are one aspect, defending from open play is another.

Look at the 1st goal we conceded at Schalke, just before half time. Per clears the ball and 3 defenders push up. 1 defender stays back with his man and plays another player, the goal scorer, onside. That has nothing to do with ability or selection, but simply to do with players not defending as a unit and working together. It is reasonable to assume that they haven't done their homework, so to speak.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 07:39 PM
that the good things you do end up outweighing the other stuff.

On corners; if He wanted to take them more seriously, He'd have to sign different players and even be a different manager too. So again, it comes down to whether you want Wenger to the job or you don't.

This business of the "same mistakes happening again and again": Of course they will! They are the same kind of players selected and trained by the same manager!

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 07:48 PM
I think that players can be moulded into a unit, you feel that a defence will only improve with a change of personel.

redgunamo
11-26-2012, 07:59 PM
because there's lots of other stuff to be positive about.

Bergkamp's Brain
11-26-2012, 08:09 PM
When we were invincible, we were still not great at the back. I realise that, that sounds a bit ridonkculous, but, we were so good going forward that teams were more worried about what we were likely to do, if they opened up a bit. We don't have those forward players so we need to be better at the back. Without that change we will struggle to get results.