so ethical question for AWIMB... you have 2 potential deals to close before end of dec to earn 20£k

[Snin]

commision..its just sIT software for the, one is a east euro loan co. like wonga the other is a retirement housing/building/home co. that appeared on a tv watchdog type thing.. should i feel any problems with this? maybe give a 1k£ of the comm to charity ? or just ignore it..not closed yet but was just wondering. for some reason i attract wrong uns sold to BCCI, Enron and in my first sales job for a business exhibition company ( blue chip) sold a HUGE stand to scientologists..agreed with them to put it under fake co. name so it wasnt rejected by our bosses http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif but for some reason this ones made me ponder

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Frimpy]

[Ashberto]

Doubtless your wonderful software will improve both the service offered and the worker conditions in both companies so fill yer boots. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif

[3rd Generation Gooner]

no problems here

[Snin]

E ex bbc director type now head of a charity earn 120k maybe best just spend it on coken weed to help poor furrin types plus english local beer and local good food from farm shop http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Ashberto]

... if you are dropping your technical colleagues in the **** by making unrealistic promises on such things as cost and timescales on data migrations then I hope you rot in hell.

I am contractually obliged to offer solidarity to my comrades who deliver the *real* wealth in these deals, you see. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif

[Snin]

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif I help imo its like free consultancy , expert help http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif nothing wrong with sales http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/rubchin.gif

[Ashberto]

:savile:

[Snin]

Expectations it just ballache all round otherwise. Also I should remember each deal is 3 to 6 months work for 2 ps in uk and 10 or so in india

[Ashberto]

Just that it doesn't actually involve any real creation of wealth - just oils the wheel of capitalism to allow supply and demand to meet each other.

My only objection to it is that the real wealth creators never get a 20k bonus on the closing of 2 deals in which they will probably do at least as much work as the salesman. :unclekarl:

[Snin]

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[Ashberto]

Who the fùck are sa and ps volks?

[Snin]

20 not 10 http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

[Billy Goat Sverige]

ps and sa's stuff.

[Snin]

[Snin]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

degree. Is that crap actually used a lot in industry?

[Ashberto]

of corporate jargon.

[Ashberto]

What bonuses do they get if they deliver these deals?

[Snin]

Sometimes you do really use it to make sure you cover all possibilities and cover your arse if it does not come in

[Snin]

Get that percent feed from ten plus people so consistent . We keep em happy as competing against sap and oracle in hcm , talent manage etc means they have too

[Billy Goat Sverige]

project manager asks can you do this by then. It's up to them to do all the scheduling and tell the client what can and can't be implemented in the timescale so they probably use all the MoSCow/DSDM stuff.

Personally i can't be doing with it and have no idea why they taught me it.

[Ashberto]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regular_mini-sections_i n_Private_Eye#Solutions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regular_mini-sections_in_Private_Eye#Solutions)

[Snin]

Lots of others inc us worth a shot , good market at month

[Ashberto]

I've done some development in rare and proprietory languages but not a proper coding career like our Herbs, for example.

Although my experience in small software houses, and working for their clients, suggests that a lot of the academic and corporate techniques and buzz-procedures never get a look-in.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

Imo.

Though I've never been in direct sales so I don't have the "feel" for spotting wronguns (Except George W Bush - I sussed him instantly.) But the above is my stand as is, and you can certainly do what you want to make you feel better about yourself - prob should anyways!

gl