plastic james
11-14-2012, 03:30 PM
352 does not suit an attacking team like us. 352 is basically a defensive version of the diamond.
thats why italian teams switch between these 2 formations, which is also what mancini have been trying to do, ie switching between 352 and the diamond.
when you play 352 against 433....your 3 defenders are basically marking 1 striker...you wing backs mark their wingers...which is why opposition teams can push forward one of their 4 defenders into midfield and outplay your 3 midfielders, while still having 3 at the back against your 2.
its basically a formation for teams who defend against alot of possesion. thats why italian teams push forward one of the 3 defenders in 352 during a game into a defensive midfield position to make it a diamond formation to compete for possession when they want to attack. the problem with a diamond is that you isolate your fullback against 2 players in the wing.
in england where most teams attack from the wing that is a recipe for disaster, but like i said these 2 formations work well in italy, one is defensive and one is offensive.
i think alex ferguson unlike mancini has found the balance in english football, 4 titles and 3 CL finals in 6 years are the proof.
he uses 442 in the league, but switches to 443 in europe, this way he uses the width/strikers of 442 domestically to punish English teams, while using the strength of 433 in europe which is possession. these two formations are close just like the 352/dimanond formations are close. you just bring back one of your strikers or replace him with a midfielder.
width and stretching teams work in uk because teams are full of big slow defenders who can deal with you passing the ball infront of them as they will stand their ground and tackle you from behind. celtic v barcelona is a good example. this is also why england often only lose on penalties in tournaments, british defenders know how to defend deep against ball moving teams, because they never were interested in possession anyway. but they struggle against pace
in italy, its the opposite, mobile and nimble defenders have no problem fallowing their man and racing him, but they struggle when they have to defend their box for long periods as team, because they want to have possession at some time, its how they attack.
this is why the attacking plan of top italian teams is control possession and find defensive wholes against lower teams, but english top teams aim to get behind the defences of lower teams with pace.
imo alex ferguson have learned alot from wenger during the years, its time wenger learned something from ferguson. switching between 442/433 is imo better suited for us than going the mancini road.
thats why italian teams switch between these 2 formations, which is also what mancini have been trying to do, ie switching between 352 and the diamond.
when you play 352 against 433....your 3 defenders are basically marking 1 striker...you wing backs mark their wingers...which is why opposition teams can push forward one of their 4 defenders into midfield and outplay your 3 midfielders, while still having 3 at the back against your 2.
its basically a formation for teams who defend against alot of possesion. thats why italian teams push forward one of the 3 defenders in 352 during a game into a defensive midfield position to make it a diamond formation to compete for possession when they want to attack. the problem with a diamond is that you isolate your fullback against 2 players in the wing.
in england where most teams attack from the wing that is a recipe for disaster, but like i said these 2 formations work well in italy, one is defensive and one is offensive.
i think alex ferguson unlike mancini has found the balance in english football, 4 titles and 3 CL finals in 6 years are the proof.
he uses 442 in the league, but switches to 443 in europe, this way he uses the width/strikers of 442 domestically to punish English teams, while using the strength of 433 in europe which is possession. these two formations are close just like the 352/dimanond formations are close. you just bring back one of your strikers or replace him with a midfielder.
width and stretching teams work in uk because teams are full of big slow defenders who can deal with you passing the ball infront of them as they will stand their ground and tackle you from behind. celtic v barcelona is a good example. this is also why england often only lose on penalties in tournaments, british defenders know how to defend deep against ball moving teams, because they never were interested in possession anyway. but they struggle against pace
in italy, its the opposite, mobile and nimble defenders have no problem fallowing their man and racing him, but they struggle when they have to defend their box for long periods as team, because they want to have possession at some time, its how they attack.
this is why the attacking plan of top italian teams is control possession and find defensive wholes against lower teams, but english top teams aim to get behind the defences of lower teams with pace.
imo alex ferguson have learned alot from wenger during the years, its time wenger learned something from ferguson. switching between 442/433 is imo better suited for us than going the mancini road.