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Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 11:51 AM
They know he's off at the end of the season and we have a midfield of latin dwarves who cant tackle for peanut brittle.

hamstrung
11-05-2012, 11:54 AM
we simply don't have enough winners in the team.

Billy Goat Sverige
11-05-2012, 11:55 AM

Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 11:56 AM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 11:57 AM
always laid the blame squarely on your shoulders.

Peter
11-05-2012, 11:57 AM
And take pride in the shirt.

Etc etc http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

o2be a gooner
11-05-2012, 12:03 PM
sellign our best players, making himself and the owners profit.

shouldve gone 5 years ago when we still had a pretty decent team. alot of people could see this coming back then.

Brentwood
11-05-2012, 12:04 PM
unproven in the Premier League. Either because they have come from foreign leagues, or from the youth team. It takes them months/years to get to the required level and by that time, we sell them. Every year.

The exception is Arteta, who was immediately useful

Contrast this with man Utd who mainly shop for players from other Premier league clubs, where the risk is much much lower. Rio, Rooney, Young, Valencia, RvP

Even a full international who is clearly good, and by definition world class, needs time to get used to the speed, physicality etc

hamstrung
11-05-2012, 12:05 PM

o2be a gooner
11-05-2012, 12:07 PM
when you sell the players who finally get used to it for profit...

walcott next..

Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 12:07 PM

Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 12:08 PM
Which, I guess, is what will happen with feeeyo

hamstrung
11-05-2012, 12:08 PM
a monster that is only interested in finishing in the top 4.

If we play **** then there is always next week.

Mo Britain less Europe
11-05-2012, 12:08 PM

o2be a gooner
11-05-2012, 12:10 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:10 PM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:11 PM
We're in a fight for 4th place which is just about right.

Forget about the 3 big boys, we're in the other playground with swings and see-saws, they're in the one with the climbing wall.

o2be a gooner
11-05-2012, 12:11 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:12 PM

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:13 PM
We'd still be in the same place. £70m doesn't get you far once wages are taken into account.

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:14 PM
And gets paid a salary the same as everyone else.

Billy Goat Sverige
11-05-2012, 12:14 PM
isn't an excuse for some of the **** performances this season.

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:16 PM
That will come back round again. They don't become bad players or a bad team in 3 weeks. Going to have to dig in deep in the meantime.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:17 PM
Subbed every game.

PSRB
11-05-2012, 12:18 PM

o2be a gooner
11-05-2012, 12:18 PM
actually.

Billy Goat Sverige
11-05-2012, 12:18 PM
:waitsforjorge:

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:19 PM

PSRB
11-05-2012, 12:19 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:19 PM

Monty91
11-05-2012, 12:20 PM
Tires in every game. Not his fault, and not a sign of lack of fitness. Just the composition of the man. Not a big problem.

PSRB
11-05-2012, 12:20 PM

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:20 PM
To do what he does best, going forward anyway. f**k knows why he's decided not to bother tackling back. Knackered probably http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/nod.gif

PSRB
11-05-2012, 12:22 PM
and stays as far away as possible*


*not being entirely serious Monty

Peter
11-05-2012, 12:22 PM

Mack
11-05-2012, 12:23 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:23 PM
tend to last over ninety minutes.

Is that actually true anyway?

Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 12:24 PM

Classic Jorge
11-05-2012, 12:24 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:25 PM

Brentwood
11-05-2012, 12:26 PM
He has shown loyalty to our club when a lesser man would have walked. He spends every waking minute watching football DVDs by all accounts, so he doesn't even have time to spend it all anyway

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:26 PM
Okay, maybe not major but still a problem.

Do we know if this occured last season in Germany with Koln or is it just our own analysis.

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:26 PM

Monty91
11-05-2012, 12:28 PM
and tactically he's an obvious candidate to come off.

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:28 PM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:28 PM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:29 PM

Mack
11-05-2012, 12:29 PM
http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/wave.gif

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:39 PM
Wenger out?

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 12:40 PM
http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif

Peter
11-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Four poor performances in a row. It is his job to turn it around.

As bgm says, it isnt to do with signings and money.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
11-05-2012, 12:43 PM

Red N White Army
11-05-2012, 12:43 PM
actually.

Peter
11-05-2012, 12:45 PM

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 01:00 PM
he did, indeed, get paid a bonus for "developing" players, if they were sold on at a profit. He did add that his bonus for keeping Blackpoool up would be far greater than that though.

Wenger, when asked about IH's comments in His own press conference, refused to discuss that issue, merely saying that it was not good for football if supporters believed that their manager could be selling off his best players, in order for him to benefit financially.

So naturally, I presumed it to be true that managers do, in fact, receive such payments as a matter of course. It's not that hard to believe really.

redgunamo
11-05-2012, 01:12 PM
slim, blonde Euro-wife. And if she doesn't know her way around L'Avenue des Champs-Élysées then I'm a Dutchman.

Gooner Canuck
11-05-2012, 06:03 PM
http://www.arsenal-mad.co.uk/matchcentres/leeds_united_vs_ar senal/28_sep_2002/274331/index.shtml (http://www.arsenal-mad.co.uk/matchcentres/leeds_united_vs_arsenal/28_sep_2002/274331/index.shtml)