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willich
10-27-2012, 10:13 PM
Will be selling players to pay dividends for board , money , money , money !
FOOTBALL Club and supporters suffer , we pay in monetary terms and football wise , no real challenge for trophies !

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:14 PM

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:14 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:15 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:15 PM

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:16 PM
You may argue when is the wrong or right time to invest in players and I'm sure 99% of supporters think we should have spent more but the fact is that nobody is taking money out of the club.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:16 PM
Will be selling players to pay dividends for board , money , money , money !

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:17 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:17 PM

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:18 PM
they were basically promoting the following

www.wherehasourarsenalgone.co.uk/

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:19 PM
I mean taking dividends out of the club would negatively affect Kroenke's investment, which is far more substantial than the paltry £15-20 million one could foresee being paid.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:20 PM
was an idiot for saying 'the same idiots again' when people raised hands to say that they opposed Gazidiz's re-election but he did have a point, to be fair.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:21 PM
If we stopped doing it now for some reason it would be an admission that the business model was failing and our long term plan to get back to the top was crumbling with it.

It's great news that we pay dividends imo.

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:24 PM
there were some reasonable and sensible ideas about ST Pricing, Cup games, away fans location etc but the last point was basically "Usmanov In!" which only diluted the decent suggestions they were making imo.

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:25 PM

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:26 PM

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:27 PM
He wont though, from what I can see of how he runs things. The Glazers on the other hand....

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:27 PM

Supermac1976
10-27-2012, 10:28 PM
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Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:28 PM

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:29 PM
I thought that they didn't, and that this was one of Usmanov's demands, which of course makes a mockery of those that think he will give us *** FREE MONEY *****

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:29 PM

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:31 PM
were it not for the leeching of the Glazers. Their spending potential would be up there with the likes of City and Chelsea, and then some.

Peeler
10-27-2012, 10:32 PM
We haven't paid dividends for years.
One would also think as the board's self appointed grammar policeman, you would know how to spell the name of our chief executive
http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/****er.gif

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:32 PM
Though as I said, some very reasonable ideas about ST options without the 7 cup games, spread payment terms for STs and options for ST holders to downgrade to Silver.

Supermac1976
10-27-2012, 10:34 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:34 PM
by Danny Fiszman, Peter Hill-Wood etc - it was as good as family owned then.

But when we bought Stan in to stop Usmanov getting a controlling stake I should imagine that we have to pay a small dividend to keep him happy.

It's normal for a successful company to pay the shareholders a dividend if the company has done well. After all, they do own a share of the company.

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:34 PM
is the the best place to be imo

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:36 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:37 PM

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:37 PM
50p per game for a hundred million Chinese and its trebles all round on the SS Kroenke.

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:40 PM
That's The Emirates, and then another Emirates half its size

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:41 PM

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:42 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:43 PM
I'd like to see some statistics on support of English teams in China.

And by 'support' I mean a fan that supports the club to the extent that they'll part with hard earned Yuan for some merchandise/service.

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:43 PM

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:44 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:44 PM
that the club increases substantially in value/he has an agreement to sell his shares at some point for significantly more than they're worth.

Peeler
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
but I do agree with those who say that international PPV in Asia, Africa and S. America is the intended business model for many of the billionaires buying football clubs.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Not being condescending, just I've always thought it's the fairest and easiest way to do it.

Would you just do it on first come, first served? You'd get a lot more tourists etc in there then than there are already.

IUFG
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
That is entirety of his thinking in buying the club, surely. With television income that increases hugely year-on-year and football's ever-expanding interest, world-wide, Arsenal are almost certain to massively increase in value over the next 10 years or so.

Frankly, to even suggest that these billionaires buy into clubs with the intention of taking out a pathetic annual stipend, that would only harm their initial outlay, is ridiculous.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
else because of the following that years and years of success garnered them overseas.

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
Still an element of youth but, for those that grow up properly, free of the obnoxious cłntery of their twenties.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:51 PM
just watch them for free as we do on a weekly basis?

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
this time next year as well. Rather than being forced into slave labour which is essentially what happens at present.

Classic Jorge
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM

halfsharkalligatorhalfman
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
The income brought in from domestic tv rights alone is set to double with the new deal which starts this year (almost 50 million per club iirc), and international rights will continue to increase in cost exponentially.

It's quite easy to imagine that in a decade or two we will look back on footballers' current earnings and think them quaint by comparison.

Rich
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM

Ashberto
10-27-2012, 11:03 PM
Just curious - would you rather be operating in the US healthcare system?

Rich
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
ethically; no. I rave about the NHS and I think it's one of the most brilliant and sophisticated healthcare systems in the world. I genuinely think it's something that all Brits should be immensely proud of. It gets me extremely agitated when people lavish criticisms on it - people just don't realise how lucky they are. You don't hear about the magnificent jobs that so many NHS staff do on a daily basis.

So, in short, I'd prefer to work as part of the UK healthcare system. I have boundless admiration for the NHS and will, all being well, be hugely proud to say I work as part of the system.