I dislike tories and osbourne but i do agree with one

[modd]

thing. We have to end benefits alltogether for me. You should never being paid for doing nothing.

in the end i said same thing a year or so ago and not changed my mind. end benefits all together for everyone. This is not always poplur but it saves this country a lot of money and is fair to taxpayers.

[Curly]

Let them eat cake

[Dorset Gooner]

people that need them for valid reasons & in most cases they have contributed to them with tax & NI.

[modd]

but it time to end it all together . the only people that could get some loans are for me people who have health promblems or a disablity that does not unable them to work.

But bar those people anybody that fit to work should not be given any benefits at all for doing nothing.

[Curly]

[modd]

to do nothing. that has to end for good; only those who have health promblems or diablity should get it

[Nicosia Gooner]

What about the people who paid thousands of pounds contributions over the years and because of reasons outside their control cannot get a job or have health problems?

I know, it serves them right so let them die

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Just to clarify.

[modd]

work . their always something. For me nobody who fit should get something for free.

[modd]

only be for people who have health promblems, disablity isssues that unable them to work. but those who are fit should work

[Dorset Gooner]

[Red N White Army]

To your voluntary job? What about heating?

Not entirely sure you've thought this through tbh. Or you have and are on a wind-up. The latter probably.

[Curly]

[modd]

should get loans and those who are unable to work should do. all im saying is those who are fit to work should not get money for free

[Nicosia Gooner]

[Dorset Gooner]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Nicosia Gooner]

[Supermac1976]

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

talking *******s frankly and shows you unable to debate a serious issue.

in terms of heating and electric bill the way you do is by doing any job that comes your way. if your really look hard their thing out.

look i am not saying its people fault but you can,t agrue that benefit costs this country a lot of money

[Free SL]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

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[modd]

with your childish lies. why don,t you debate this. i am not only one in this country that thinking about this

[Luis Anaconda]

[Red N White Army]

[Nicosia Gooner]

[modd]

meanwhile to bulid up my skills. i am not saying we should end it for everyone. just those who are fit to work or at least cut it.

[Free SL]

Really?

And you want to try and defend your view?

Good grief

[Nicosia Gooner]

[modd]

to end benefits for all but it has to be cut for certain. it cost taxpayer to much money.

[Curly]

[Nicosia Gooner]

[Free SL]

and actually thinks that there is a valid reason for stopping benefits.

[modd]

but look maybe i was too harsh in sending end it for all. too early for that. just cut it for now is right thing that all i am saying

[modd]

i just saying that you just go looking for one but in meanwhile voluntury work can help that all.

but look i am not saying end benefits for all just now. just eventually over time.

[Nicosia Gooner]

world

Probably an extreme right wing ****

[modd]

but it has to be cut for short term. when you look at london staistic ecnomic figures benefits cost this country millions of pounds. savings will help invest in education and in creating more jobs for people

[modd]

you need save money by cutting benefits

[modd]

belive in the public sector and people right to strike. belive in gay marrige, in human rights act and many other liberal causes.

don,t box me in mate because in to some left or right wing box cause that show you not got a clue.

[modd]

that for me. if i am paid in my market research job why should i get benefits above that.

[Maravilloso Marvo]

benefits without ever having paid in. Their benefits out reflect what you have paid in.

[modd]

it has to be cut in the meanwhile that all.

[modd]

but i still stick to view benefits should be cut

[Free SL]

I'm all for cutting the amount of benefits currently being paid out by the country, but to stop it altogether?

I don't think anyone would dispute that currently there are people receiving benefits that should be working, but as Nicosia says there are many people currently receiving beneifts through no fault of their own.

[Luis Anaconda]

maybe the Greeks could chip in with some nuggets of wisdom

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[modd]

end them all. rephased that badly. i just meant that should not be paid for doing nothing when you have put nothing in. But look that may have been too harsh on those trying to find work but can,t get it.

[Nicosia Gooner]

another due to today's recession issues

You are suggesting that he shouldn't get any benefits as he isn't disabled or sick

So what about all his contributions in the last 30 years?

[modd]

that for sure .

[Nicosia Gooner]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

Every single last one of 'em.

[JJSB]

now, you shouldn't get any handouts either? http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/rubchin.gif

No welfare state would mean masses of people begging in the streets, like third world countries.

[modd]

like a student gets but to get weekly benefit would be wrong as he not sick or ill. But look when i put across like that you make a fair point to be honest.

[Nicosia Gooner]

[modd]

should not end benefits for people done nothing wrong and working and lost their job.

i guess i am talking about people who never worked and put into the system.

it wrong for me to put everyone into one box. sorry

[Nicosia Gooner]

[modd]

put people into one box. people who do lose job for no fault should get benefit in short term to help them out

i just was really mean those who never worked and have been on benefit their whole lives

[modd]

out who looking for work with money and that helps you short term finnically while you look for work.

[PSRB]

also noticed up here that in an effort to give kids of the unemployed a better chance they get 1st choice of the state schools up here........doesn't exactly strike me as fair

[modd]

to say end it for all. way over the top now had time to calm down. Just need cut it for people who never worked or don,t need it

[JJSB]

will not be able to get a job now anyway. People with degrees and years of experience are struggling to find work, any work, so what chance do they have?

That ship has long sailed on those who don't want to or refuse to work.

[modd]

that for sure

[modd]

lives though not those who never tried at all to get work.

[modd]

personally think it should be the motto. work hard and pay hard. that seems fair

[Brentwood]

[modd]

[Luis Anaconda]

[modd]

your confidence more then anything

[modd]

, bar staff, lefealters, . got to just find it

[modd]

every time. that amount to bullying mate and it unfair.

i admit though i was out of order saying that end benefits alltogether. now had time to calm down i was totally and uttery wrong to say that. i just got annoyed by something i saw on bbc and went way over the top.

stupid of me and again i am sorry.

[Brentwood]

[modd]

bad turn of phase

[JJSB]

are highly in demand.

And if you're over qualified for that sort of thing, they won't even consider you.

[Supermac1976]

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[modd]

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