Are people really surprised that shows like the X-Factor are fixed?

[CrossGun]

It's almost like Simon Cowell chooses who wins. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif

They fleece fools who are under the illusion their premium rate phone call vote matters.

[bostonbrian]

[JJSB]

The contestant with the lowest votes was the one that went out in any case. Was just poor judgment from one of the judges that made it get to that stage.

If you're talking about phone votes not counting, or being manipulated, that's a different matter.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

can be fixed. The people who win always have the most public votes. If ITV did anything concerning the votes they'd be in deep ****.

[JJSB]

And didn't they have to pull some new stunt or change the rules for one week to finally get that Wagner off?!

I've never met a person who votes on this programme anyway (or should that read admits to voting http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif )

[Berni]

That demographic is notable for being easily surprised, I believe.

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

it must be, surely? They wouldn't actually be really watching it...would they?

[Berni]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

getting a no.1 single or album is purely spurious as the charts are of no relevance whatsoever these days. I suppose the difference is that NF or OK at least occasionally had some talented people...

[JJSB]

What BBC1 and ITV show at prime times is still where many people would go to first.

[bostonbrian]

and i'm coming for you in the ppl bitch! http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

& re PPPPPPPPPL - 50p says I'll beat you http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/wink.gif

[bostonbrian]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[bostonbrian]

[The Rob2]

[bostonbrian]

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