I really hope we miss out on 4th this year. Getting CL money only reinforces this approach.

[Selkey - Wenger's hairpiece is a masterstroke]

Watching RVP score for united makes me hate arsenal a little bit.

[Yesterday Once More]

[CrossGun]

[Selkey - Wenger's hairpiece is a masterstroke]

[CrossGun]

...if you think we're more likely to spend silly money playing UEFA cup level.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[No-one knows LESS about Wenger than Myles Palmer]

And I can see it happening

[Ashberto]

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

[Yesterday Once More]

[Paul Vaessen's moment of glory]

[CrossGun]

Or am I missing something?

[Ashberto]

It seems our outgoings and incomings are not that far apart.

I'm no fan of Kroenke & Gazidis, btw. I think they should come clean about where we stand with the monies. I saw a figure earlier claiming that about £160m has 'disappeared' from the club in the last few years. That sounds made-up to me, but where is there a reliable figure of the balance?

[Classic Jorge]

[7evens]

They're in it for the dividends, surely http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

We've got a fixed term deal which doesn't allow for early repayments.

[Classic Jorge]

All they are doing is attempting not to run the business they are collectively responsible for within the means afforded to it by its income. I mean, even if you disagree with the basic philosophy of it you surely have to recognise the validity of the thinking behind the approach, no?

[Bergkamp's Brain]

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=515307 &mid=3517895&rid=241&S=f386295bf9d824c9d105d86b2 af8a88d&rev=&reveal= (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&th=515307&mid=3517895&rid=241&S=f386295bf9d824c9d105d86b2af8a88d&rev=&reveal=)

[Ashberto]

dividends?

I understand people wanting Chelsea/City style sugar daddy, but didn't Malaga have one of those? And they're now a bit f**ked because he lost interest. We may continue to not win things going as we are against the oil-funded clubs, but we don't face the risk of obliteration, which both Chelsea and City do if their benefactors pulled out.

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

Fitzman. Including Fitzman himself.

[Classic Jorge]

[CrossGun]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Good player.

[Classic Jorge]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YlcLOl0Bm3c/T5S1EUgLwvI/AAAAAAAAA1M/UdnM3YBhL6c/s1600/tin-foil-hat.jpg

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/smile.gif

[7evens]

run it how they please.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif

[Classic Jorge]

More fool me, I guess

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

Costs" or some such.

I'm not impressed with Kronke in the slightest - He's a robber baron.

[Classic Jorge]

[7evens]

To assume these guys aren't in it for personal gain is naive.
I see no Mansour or Abramovich ego's at our place.

[Ashberto]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

If you pay the manager enough money, he'll back you publically regardless of what you're doing to the club.....

[Classic Jorge]

No offence, like, but you do.

I dont claim to be any sort of authority myself but it's something I keep an eye on from time to time, call it intellectual curiosity if you will.

This would be a fairly decent place to start if you want to enlighten yourself. Assuming, of course, that enlightening yourself is something you might be interested in.

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Arsenal

[Ashberto]

like Real Madrid that he's had.

[7evens]

Dividends or otherwise, these people can run the business accordingly and we as supporters have to wear it.

I'd find it pretty disturbing, if as suggested , £160m had gone west. I don't realy trust Kroenke, from what I've seen so far, call it gut feeling or intuition, his real motives for acquiring the club still remain something of a mystery.

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

I've no love or loyalty for the man and, as he's a serial sports club owner with a track record for running his clubs within their means and not asset stripping them, one can only assume his exit plan is based around one of a long term sale.

The fact he hasn't injected a lot of money into the club or burdened it with a massive amount of debt is enough for me.

Your theory doesnt hold any water, based largely on the fact that they've not taken a penny in dividends.

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

can get it.

[Classic Jorge]

They want to see us run like Man U, see?

Kroenke and Gazidis need to load £580m of debt on the club, show some ambition.

[Peter]

Or is that a silly question?

[7evens]

By xmas, if we're outside top 4, they'll be abusing Wenger from the terraces and baying for the guardians at the gate to release Usmanov and his billions.

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

[taxman10]

It is not possible for a publicly traded company to "extract" cash without declaring a dividend. The auditors wouldn't allow it. This is therefore complete rubbish