Looks like the m'vila move could still happen. If thehold up over sahin

[Peter]

Isover the permanent deal then arsene is right to hold out. What is the point in having him for one season.

Without a permanent deal in place we wont get him next summer. If he is crap this year we wont want him, if he is good either real will take him back or city, united and chelsea will swarm all over him next summer and we wont get a look in.

We have enough transition in the squad as it is withouthaving midfielders coming and going.

[Luis Anaconda]

saves all these complications

[Peter]

We do seem to have got quite good at selling players now. Got very good money for van persie, song, even nasri last year.

Shame to waste that talent.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Peter]

I can see them kicking off the cpnversation but would have thought the money men would do the negotiations.

Bendtner intrigues me. I wonder why he hasnt found a club yet. Do you reckon it is money or that he just doesnt fancy the clubs hehas offers from?

Too good a player to be sat idle.

[Peter]

Of those three would be interested next summer?

Of course, he might be very ordinary but not bad, then we would be ok.

[Luis Anaconda]

That could be applied to Ferguson or Bendtner tbf. The latter has three conditions that must be met. Presumably they are a bit too pricey for anyone. Really does live in a dreamworld, that boy - but I agree he has talent and shouldn't be rotting away

[wibble the lobster]

think sahin loan is to cover wilshire who will be brought back lightly in nov/dec and who we can expect to take a year to get back to regular football

he is same size as podolski so cant see him replacing song

I know we wont spend the dosh but has martinez signed yet for bayern. If so will that mean tymoschuk or the pig-climber will be set free or will they play 40m martinez at centre back

[Peter]

Side on better money than he is on now.

He isnt going to walk into any of the top sides as a first choice and i would think very few sides below the top rank would want to pay the sort of money he probably wants.

At some point the penny has to drop that maybe the rest of the world doesnt see him quite the way he sees himself.

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[eastgermanautos]

[redgunamo]

I mean, insofar as I'd heard of him at all.

Which I hadn't.

[Peter]

I also think we can assume that arsene has a level of interest in m'vila.

Obviously i am speculating a little.

It appears that wenger really rates this kid- again, speculation. I doubt this move is purely to cover for jack.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Currently the most commonly used sentence on twitter by Arsenal fans. Complete *******s too.

[wibble the lobster]

[redgunamo]

[Peter]

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[Luis Anaconda]

[redgunamo]

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[Luis Anaconda]

In some ways I feel sorry for him, don't know why

[Death]

[wibble the lobster]

all get sucked forward (fullbacks too) to deal with massed defences.

its why our central defenders always look exposed on the counter.

[wibble the lobster]

with an ability to help out at set pieces so we dont have to play diaby every time a tall team comes to town

[redgunamo]

No longer will we need ten of our blokes to be in the attacking third in order to score a goal. Or even create a chance.

We'll be better balanced.