So Monty old bean, it's pretty clear to me what is going to happen now

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Who voted for it isn't the point. The point is that civilised people can get along whether there is a border or not. If you put a border between the Jocks and the English they wouldn't start fighting each other, would they? Same thing for Ontario and Quebec.

All this fuss and potentially an economic disaster (not that I believe that, of course) for no reason other than that Irish can't get along if you put a border in, even a really soft one.

Utter madness.

Oh I don’t think for a second that anybody really thinks it will see a return to the Troubles of the past.

It is just that one side don’t want a border in respect of national unity and because it being removed was a cornerstone of the peaceful idyll in which we now co-exist with the Hun, also the ease with which people around the border can live their everyday lives, whereas the others don’t want a soft border as they want to be treated like the rest of the UK and to be separate and removed from the EU. By having no border they are really just staying exactly how they were before the vote and they know you are effectively wiping your hands of them.

I can remember the border between Newry and Dundalk the first time around and it was a massive pain in the *******s. I don’t want a border because it will be a massive pain in the *******s.

Of course there will be isolated incidences of trouble but one would expect that.

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Oh I don’t think for a second that anybody really thinks it will see a return to the Troubles of the past.

It is just that one side don’t want a border in respect of national unity and because it being removed was a cornerstone of the peaceful idyll in which we now co-exist with the Hun, also the ease with which people around the border can live their everyday lives, whereas the others don’t want a soft border as they want to be treated like the rest of the UK and to be separate and removed from the EU. By having no border they are really just staying exactly how they were before the vote and they know you are effectively wiping your hands of them.

I can remember the border between Newry and Dundalk the first time around and it was a massive pain in the *******s. I don’t want a border because it will be a massive pain in the *******s.

Of course there will be isolated incidences of trouble but one would expect that.

Personally I'd make the customs part of the border as lightweight as possible and if that means that some goods pass through undetected then so be it, no big deal.

The people border I would move to the English side as you can control it much more easily and people don't move between NI and England/Scotland as part of their daily routine very often, I think. The DUP and others would moan about them not being part of Britain at that point and I would reply with something along the lines of 'f*ck off and play nicely you savages'.