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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    So would I. And I think the Scousers et al showed be retrospectively awarded titles for years they cheated. And us for last year. And they should be relegated a division for every season they've cheated.
    Not much of a parade though, is it. Come and celebrate the title we have been retrospectively awarded from 3 years ago.

    Plus.... you didn't win, did you. They were the better side, they just cheated on the spending. There is something about that I wouldn't want to celebrate.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Not much of a parade though, is it. Come and celebrate the title we have been retrospectively awarded from 3 years ago.

    Plus.... you didn't win, did you. They were the better side, they just cheated on the spending. There is something about that I wouldn't want to celebrate.
    No, t'was the cheating that MADE them the better side. Impossible to separate the two. Beers for the Arsenal all round, I reckon. Dancing in the streets.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    No, t'was the cheating that MADE them the better side. Impossible to separate the two. Beers for the Arsenal all round, I reckon. Dancing in the streets.
    But they were still the better side..... even if you don't separate the two, you didn't actually win. Either you're in the results business or you're not.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    But they were still the better side..... even if you don't separate the two, you didn't actually win. Either you're in the results business or you're not.
    I agree with Reds. It was cheating that made them the better side.

    We loaned Raya to stay in budget. Were we allowed to cheat we could have had a winter window this year like last when we tried twice to buy a very expensive player and still made three great signings. {Leo, Jakob and Jorgy have all been starting during our recent good run.}

    Were we allowed to cheat like City, we could have bought 3 top players this winter and we'd feel more confident about the two comps we're still in.

    How would we feel in LFC had cheated this winter and spent £150m on two players? Wouldn't seem fair.

    I agree that it's not a great parade for a trophy you won 3 years ago. Which is why every single scouse fan {and us} should be allowed to sue the City owners for a fortune.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    I agree with Reds. It was cheating that made them the better side.

    We loaned Raya to stay in budget. Were we allowed to cheat we could have had a winter window this year like last when we tried twice to buy a very expensive player and still made three great signings. {Leo, Jakob and Jorgy have all been starting during our recent good run.}

    Were we allowed to cheat like City, we could have bought 3 top players this winter and we'd feel more confident about the two comps we're still in.

    How would we feel in LFC had cheated this winter and spent £150m on two players? Wouldn't seem fair.

    I agree that it's not a great parade for a trophy you won 3 years ago. Which is why every single scouse fan {and us} should be allowed to sue the City owners for a fortune.
    I agree that cheating made them the better side. But they were still the better side.

    I am not saying I will be joining the celebration police, but I won't be joining you all on the open top bus parade either.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I agree that cheating made them the better side. But they were still the better side.

    I am not saying I will be joining the celebration police, but I won't be joining you all on the open top bus parade either.
    But they weren't the better side in 2010 or whenever it was that they started cheating.

    Just like Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong won their races. But only because they cheated.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    But they weren't the better side in 2010 or whenever it was that they started cheating.

    Just like Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong won their races. But only because they cheated.
    Slightly different, although I take the point. Ben Johnson artificially enhanced his performance. He ran faster because of it.

    City haven't done that. The players themselves won everything fair and square. They are not better players because they cost more or they earn more and nothing has been done to enhance their actual performance. Pound for pound (pardon the pun) they were the best side and deservedly won the league.

    The cheating is in how that squad was put together and specifically how much it cost. It sits outside the sphere of actual performance.

    That said, think about the guy who came second to Ben Johnson. Yeah, he gets the medal, and he does deserve it. But Johnson ruined the occasion for him. It's a win, but a pretty hollow one.

    I'm not saying City don't deserve to be stripped of the titles (I don't know if they do or they don't). I am just saying it would mean littler or nothing to me. I'm never going to count last season as a title win, under any circumstances. Still, it was a ****ing great season anyway and I thoroughly enjoyed it

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I agree that cheating made them the better side. But they were still the better side.

    I am not saying I will be joining the celebration police, but I won't be joining you all on the open top bus parade either.
    No, **** 'em. They've allegedly, apparently cheated the whole of football, not just us and Liverpool and nobody associated with Manchester City should ever be tempted to mention the whole sordid episode ever again.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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