Quote Originally Posted by Tony C View Post
interesting thread on Reddit where they're arguing about the formation i.e. Back 3, back 4, 442, 443, 4231 etc

Personally think at times we could have 12 on the pitch and still lose because the attitude of the players isn't right.

They can do it...we saw that when they mastered City and Chelsea in the Cup...maybe Wenger isn't ruthless enough with them.
For sure. We lose too many silly games in similar circumstances year after year for the results to be down simply to individual error, it is a collective problem starting at Wenger and down through the players.

There are 2-3 players who will always be the lightning rod for fans anger, in some twisted world of reality I expect Ramsey is taking stick for Saturday even though he was absent. Xhaka stood still while Cleverley moved into space but the collapse in performance had happened long before.

The situation with Ozil and Sanchez, an absolute fúcking shambles which we created for ourselves in the summer. We are not selling, no way, we will stand firm, okay we will sell, shít it's too late.

Every bad performance or result turned into an over analysis of effort and attitude.

Long season ahead.