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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Ball tampering is not one, flat thing. As others have explained, all teams 'tamper' with the ball to some extent- shining, saliva etc. This is legal and established practice across cricket. THe deliberate and premeditated use of a 'foreign object', in this case sandpaper (not tape), to alter the condition of the ball and achieve reverse swing is not commonplace and is very much cheating. It isnt difficult to spot either, given the amount of cameras around the ground at a test match.

    This doesnt compare to forms of cheating like diving, shirt pulling, fouls etc. THoseforms of'cheating' do exist in cricket- bowlers deliberately running on the pitch, bowlingwide on the crease, excessive appealing, bowling constant bouncers at tailenders, moving a fielder slightly once the bowler has commenced his run up, talking during the run up to disrupt the batsman. These are effectively forms of bending the rules but are left to the umpires to manage.

    THere isnt really an equivalent to ball tampering in football. Maybe if a goalkeeper used a specific resin on his gloves to make the ball stick better....?

    THis level of ball tampering can dramatically alter the way the ball behaves and have a significant effect on the game.
    Goalkeepers do use a sort of resin on their gloves
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Ball tampering is not one, flat thing. As others have explained, all teams 'tamper' with the ball to some extent- shining, saliva etc. This is legal and established practice across cricket. THe deliberate and premeditated use of a 'foreign object', in this case sandpaper (not tape), to alter the condition of the ball and achieve reverse swing is not commonplace and is very much cheating. It isnt difficult to spot either, given the amount of cameras around the ground at a test match.

    This doesnt compare to forms of cheating like diving, shirt pulling, fouls etc. THoseforms of'cheating' do exist in cricket- bowlers deliberately running on the pitch, bowlingwide on the crease, excessive appealing, bowling constant bouncers at tailenders, moving a fielder slightly once the bowler has commenced his run up, talking during the run up to disrupt the batsman. These are effectively forms of bending the rules but are left to the umpires to manage.

    THere isnt really an equivalent to ball tampering in football. Maybe if a goalkeeper used a specific resin on his gloves to make the ball stick better....?

    THis level of ball tampering can dramatically alter the way the ball behaves and have a significant effect on the game.
    Picking the seam? Using mints? Rubbing it against your zipper? All commonplace, all cheating, all lightly punished if at all.

    If it was taken as seriously as Burney suggests it wouldn't be a level 2 offence. And it's just as much cheating as diving is in football.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Goalkeepers do use a sort of resin on their gloves
    Do they? I thought the high end gloves were good enough.

    And,there is grippy fabric sections on the goalkeeper shirt these days..
    “Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    Picking the seam? Using mints? Rubbing it against your zipper? All commonplace, all cheating, all lightly punished if at all.

    If it was taken as seriously as Burney suggests it wouldn't be a level 2 offence. And it's just as much cheating as diving is in football.
    Sandpaper is a step up though. Plus it was the bull**** denial they tried to pull that's really caused the outrage to be quite so high

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Do they? I thought the high end gloves were good enough.

    And,there is grippy fabric sections on the goalkeeper shirt these days..
    Well you can buy a specialised resin to put on GK gloves
    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    Picking the seam? Using mints? Rubbing it against your zipper? All commonplace, all cheating, all lightly punished if at all.

    If it was taken as seriously as Burney suggests it wouldn't be a level 2 offence. And it's just as much cheating as diving is in football.
    It isnt comparable to diving. THe best comparison in cricket is probably claiming a catch that you know hit the floor. You are comparing one individual act in a game of football to a pre-meditated plan to alter the course of a game of cricket by making every delivery behave differently.

    I think we have been over why this form of ball tampering is worse than others.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Well you can buy a specialised resin to put on GK gloves
    if you have to put something else on these to make them work betterer, then it's a farking disgrace

    http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/produ...ge-172340.aspx
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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Do they? I thought the high end gloves were good enough.

    And,there is grippy fabric sections on the goalkeeper shirt these days..
    #technical

  9. #69
    In other news...Lehmann quits after seeing his captain cry like a girl : o

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony C View Post
    In other news...Lehmann quits after seeing his captain cry like a girl : o
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

    I can't decide which of these is my favourite

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