So if we'd signed Mustafi in time for the first game and got a draw, we'd be in the

[Pokster]

ManU made £34mil from the EL this year and I would expect us to be favourites next year.

So the financial impact of missing out on CL football is overstated.

favourites

[redgunamo]

favourites

Surely we must be amongst them?

[Mo Britain less Europe]

So far the cast includes:

Manu (if they don't win it this year), Villareal, Real Sociedad, Lazio, Lokomotiv Moscow' Koln, Milan, Zenit St Petersburg, PSV, Marseille and Lyon although I imagine we'd be kept apart from most of those.