Approximately 18 months ago I, World's End Stella, went on an extensive youtube

[Ash]

Seeing as this thread has degenerated into autistic tedium I might as well join in.

City's ability to sign players that we cannot does not excuse our lack of signings nor our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis.

So we should regularly be as good as a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position.

No, I did not say this.

It was logically implied by you saying that "City's ability to sign players that we cannot ... does not excuse our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis."

To consistently challenge for the league we should be at least very close to the best teams most years, and that means Man City who are, as I said a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position.

Although you could make an argument that had we ditched Wenger when we should have that we had a very good chance at Guardiola and we might very well be just as good as City or anyone else right now. Sadly, we'll never know as the one thing Arsenal haven't had for many years and won't have until Wenger leaves is hope.

Again, in your mind the only difference between the two clubs is that they have a great manager and we have a bad one.

If you'd just said that Veng should have done a bit better in the league at some point or two in recent years then probably no-one would disagree with you.

[Luis Anaconda]

Seeing as this thread has degenerated into autistic tedium I might as well join in.







It was logically implied by you saying that "City's ability to sign players that we cannot ... does not excuse our inability to challenge for the league or the CL on a reasonably consistent basis."

To consistently challenge for the league we should be at least very close to the best teams most years, and that means Man City who are, as I said a club who have unlimited power to recruit better players than us in every position.



Again, in your mind the only difference between the two clubs is that they have a great manager and we have a bad one.

If you'd just said that Veng should have done a bit better in the league at some point or two in recent years then probably no-one would disagree with you.

I would, just on principle

[World's End Stella]

Again, in your mind the only difference between the two clubs is that they have a great manager and we have a bad one.

If you'd just said that Veng should have done a bit better in the league at some point or two in recent years then probably no-one would disagree with you.

Again, this is not true, I never said Wenger is a bad manager. The difference between the two clubs is that they have more money than us (although I don't think that is as meaningful as some people suggest), they have a better manager than we do (although Wenger is still a good manager, I have never said otherwise), they have a culture/structure at their club (like most big clubs) where success is rewarded and failure punished (unlike our club where the manager can pretty much do whatever he wants with no repercussions) and most importantly of all, they have hope.

There is no logical analysis that leads me to believe that Wenger can win the league with his existing methods nor is there any reason to believe he will ever change. It is for this reason that I believe he should go.

Now try and represent what I said correctly, next time.

[Peter]

Again, this is not true, I never said Wenger is a bad manager. The difference between the two clubs is that they have more money than us (although I don't think that is as meaningful as some people suggest), they have a better manager than we do (although Wenger is still a good manager, I have never said otherwise), they have a culture/structure at their club (like most big clubs) where success is rewarded and failure punished (unlike our club where the manager can pretty much do whatever he wants with no repercussions) and most importantly of all, they have hope.

There is no logical analysis that leads me to believe that Wenger can win the league with his existing methods nor is there any reason to believe he will ever change. It is for this reason that I believe he should go.

Now try and represent what I said correctly, next time.

Reading between the lines, you seem to be saying that Ramsey is a useless, welsh ****