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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    His average over the past 3 seasons in the league is 4 goals and 3.7 assists per season, that is a rather generous definition of 'plenty'. And given that he has shown himself to be an utter liability defensively (I point you to the 4-0 defeat at Liverpool as one of many examples) if he isn't scoring them or creating them, what use is he?

    And if by 'covers the ground better than others' you mean he endlessly pushes forward regardless of the situation and is slow to track back, then I agree with you. There are those that would question that this is a good thing, however. Me among them.
    He covers plenty of ground, just not the ground he is supposed to be actually covering.

    Not entirely his fault, he is just not suited to that role.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    He covers plenty of ground, just not the ground he is supposed to be actually covering.

    Not entirely his fault, he is just not suited to that role.
    It's easy to work hard at things you're not actually supposed to be doing?
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    It's easy to work hard at things you're not actually supposed to be doing?
    Definitely.

    Much easier than working hard at things you are supposed to be doing.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Definitely.

    Much easier than working hard at things you are supposed to be doing.
    That is assuming he knows what he is supposed to be doing.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    That is assuming he knows what he is supposed to be doing.
    As I say, if he doesn't, what are we paying him for then.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    As I say, if he doesn't, what are we paying him for then.
    To do what his manager asks of him.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    To do what his manager asks of him.
    ".. can book the acts but He can't tell the acrobats which way to jump."
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    To do what his manager asks of him.
    None of us know what the manager is asking him to do.

    The fact that Wenger appears unable to create a sustainable functioning midfield hints at issues beyond the personnel.

    One could argue the most functional and mutually beneficial partnership he has had in a decade or so was one that he arrived upon by complete and utter fluke as opposed to design and player management.

    We can go round in circles all we want on midfield, then defence probably and have individual opinion on player’s ability and partnerships, I think the issue still comes down to the man at the top.

    Chris Coleman at Wales was able to tactically take advantage of Ramsey’s strengths as a player and harness them into him being one of the reported stand out performers at the Euros, yet the same player comes back to N5 and many then argue he has no clue how to play.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Definitely.

    Much easier than working hard at things you are supposed to be doing.
    This is not meant to be true of paid professionals though, otherwise what are they being paid for, what are they actually professional at? #WengerOut
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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