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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    It's Starmer. Nobody can see that guy as a Prime Minister. Doesn't matter what he says or does between now and the vote.

    That revolt over the Gaza vote now means the Tories can play up the ghost of Corbyn argument.

    Then there is Scotland. Without Scotland, Labour would need to win more than 300 seats in England. Blair pulled that off but Starmer wont.

    Hung parliament, Tories as biggest party, just about.

    But people tell me I'm crazy
    Well, you are crazy, Peter, surely we can all agree on that

    That doesn't make you wrong, however. Crazy people are frequently correct. And in this case, I agree. Corbyn/McDonnell/Abbott ruined labour for at least two elections. As I recall, no party has ever lost as badly as they did and then won the next election.

    So it's nailed on then

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Well, you are crazy, Peter, surely we can all agree on that

    That doesn't make you wrong, however. Crazy people are frequently correct. And in this case, I agree. Corbyn/McDonnell/Abbott ruined labour for at least two elections. As I recall, no party has ever lost as badly as they did and then won the next election.

    So it's nailed on then
    It is harder to judge an election these days as politics is still realigning slightly after a decade of brexit bull****.

    But the whispers around most constituencies are that people hate Starmer. That is hard to change.

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