So Jean-Claude Juncker has said that he wants the expansion of Schengen, the euro to

[Mo Britain less Europe]

lol

Well, the EU is a bit like the political wing of NATO, and ISIS is/was effectively a NATO proxy in Syria, but is now magically melting away to let the SDF get to the Deir-Azzor oil fields before the SAA - are ISIS just being handed new uniforms?

Actually not really, or not any more. Merkel's dislike of Trump has had her questioning whether Europe can rely on the US and the US are more interested in the Far East than Europe at the moment.

Plus our Turkish allies are now buying Russian hardware.

All which goes to show there is a divergence between EU and NATO interests.

[redgunamo]

Actually not really, or not any more. Merkel's dislike of Trump has had her questioning whether Europe can rely on the US and the US are more interested in the Far East than Europe at the moment.

Plus our Turkish allies are now buying Russian hardware.

All which goes to show there is a divergence between EU and NATO interests.

Nothing to do with the Donald, imo. He's really only marginally less popular than any other American president there's ever been, so far as I can judge. Overall, we simply don't like Americans.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Not true. The European chattering classes loved Obama.

[redgunamo]

Not true. The European chattering classes loved Obama.

They love me, too, but that has nothing to do with me being an American (I'm not).

[Mo Britain less Europe]

They love me, too, but that has nothing to do with me being an American (I'm not).

Obama was POTUS. If all Brits disliked all Americans he would have been loathed as the representative of all things US.

[redgunamo]

Obama was POTUS. If all Brits disliked all Americans he would have been loathed as the representative of all things US.

I see what you mean, but this is slightly different; one is simply not allowed to dislike darkies.

[Ash]

I see what you mean, but this is slightly different; one is simply not allowed to dislike darkies.

No-one really likes Adebayor tbf.

[Ash]

Actually not really, or not any more. Merkel's dislike of Trump has had her questioning whether Europe can rely on the US and the US are more interested in the Far East than Europe at the moment.

Plus our Turkish allies are now buying Russian hardware.

All which goes to show there is a divergence between EU and NATO interests.

Fair point. Also I think that Germans might reasonably take exception to being forced to buy expensive US LNG because of the sanctions imposed for the (evidence-free) claims of Russian 'hacking' in the US election. Oh the irony of that accusation, from the most interferey country in the world.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

Yes. The Europeans are now suspicious that many of these US-led sanctions are actually geared at giving US companies an advantage. There is a school of thinking in US politics that has always seen trade as an extension of warfare rather than a substitute.