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Thread: Ugh! May and Corbyn are going to have a 'Leaders' debate'

  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Is there any evidence that he was paid by the USSR? It was an accusation frequently thrown at people on the left, usually on a somewhat unsubstantiated basis.

    He was passionate about parliamentary democracy though, and the whole process of clawing power off the elite, from Magna Carta to the Chartists and Suffragettes. Had he been around to help lead the Leave campaign from a democratic and self-determination perspective it would have been a more decisive victory, and less open to the nasty accusations of xenophobia etc.
    He wasn't keen enough on clawing power away from the elite not to engage in a very exclusive inheritance tax dodge that kept all his money out of the hands of HMRC, though, was he?
    As a keen critic of rank hypocrisy, I thought you'd appreciate that.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Walford was no laughing matter. The useless Spurs **** came on at 2-0 and within moments it was 2-2.

    I wonder if Walford is another one not invited to the White Hart Lane parade
    10 characters? Pile of cund.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Is there any evidence that he was paid by the USSR? It was an accusation frequently thrown at people on the left, usually on a somewhat unsubstantiated basis.

    He was passionate about parliamentary democracy though, and the whole process of clawing power off the elite, from Magna Carta to the Chartists and Suffragettes. Had he been around to help lead the Leave campaign from a democratic and self-determination perspective it would have been a more decisive victory, and less open to the nasty accusations of xenophobia etc.
    SIS knew all about it. It was partly this fact which led to the planning of the military coup against Wilson's government in 1974.

    It's a shame the army decided against; we'd have enjoyed years os strong and stable government under Lord Protector Mountbatten instead of 50 years of socialism.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    SIS knew all about it. It was partly this fact which led to the planning of the military coup against Wilson's government in 1974.

    It's a shame the army decided against; we'd have enjoyed years os strong and stable government under Lord Protector Mountbatten instead of 50 years of socialism.
    Yes, but military coups, though. We'd be no better than frogs or dagoes if we did that sort of thing.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yes, but military coups, though. We'd be no better than frogs or dagoes if we did that sort of thing.
    In extremis one must consider all options, b. Imagine if, in June, the Labour Party were able to do a Tower Hamlets with the postal vote and were 'elected' with 178% of the vote. What then? We'd be looking to the Imperial General Staff to liberate us, would we not?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    SIS knew all about it.
    Pffft. I bet they made it up as part of their evil machinations.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Pffft. I bet they made it up as part of their evil machinations.
    It is also believed by many that MI5 had a plan to kill Benn in the event that he succeeded Wilson as Labour leader.

    I must say, it's good to know that the security services have our best interests at heart.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    In extremis one must consider all options, b. Imagine if, in June, the Labour Party were able to do a Tower Hamlets with the postal vote and were 'elected' with 178% of the vote. What then? We'd be looking to the Imperial General Staff to liberate us, would we not?
    Oh, if power were seized illegally, of course. But not in the common run of things, no.

    However, the chances of Labour managing to pull off something as complex as nationwide electoral fraud are pretty slim given they couldn't find their arses with both hands at the moment.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    It is also believed by many that MI5 had a plan to kill Benn in the event that he succeeded Wilson as Labour leader.

    I must say, it's good to know that the security services have our best interests at heart.
    I saw Stella Rimington on telly a while back saying that no MI6 agent has ever been 'licensed to kill' outside wartime.

    I thought: 'Well what fûcking good are they, then?'

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I saw Stella Rimington on telly a while back saying that no MI6 agent has ever been 'licensed to kill' outside wartime.

    I thought: 'Well what fûcking good are they, then?'
    I put it to you that what she means is, "When a member of MI5 kills in the line of duty we hold an internal enquiry to check that the execution was justified."

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