Approximately 18 months ago I, World's End Stella, went on an extensive youtube

[Monty92]

They have challenged for the title in the last two seasons (even if not entirely convincingly). I think they will challenge for it again and not win it over the next two years. Hence the my previous post.

Clearly, if they don't then I wont make the claim. I think I was fairly clear on that initially.

Obviously they are still **** and ****s, whatever they do.

Saying you think they will challenge but won't win it is a total oxymoron. If you think they'll challenge, by definition it means you think there's no reason why they can't win it.

[Peter]

Saying you think they will challenge but won't win it is a total oxymoron. If you think they'll challenge, by definition it means you think there's no reason why they can't win it.

In fact it isn't an oxymoron at all as challenging for something is not the same as winning it. There is no contradiction whatsoever in stating that you think a side will challenge for the title but that somebody else will win it.

You should note that I didnt say they couldn't win it. I said I thought they wouldn't.

[Monty92]

In fact it isn't an oxymoron at all as challenging for something is not the same as winning it. There is no contradiction whatsoever in stating that you think a side will challenge for the title but that somebody else will win it.

You should note that I didnt say they couldn't win it. I said I thought they wouldn't.

Only if you have a very confused idea about what "challenging" means. Perhaps you can provide your definition and then I can better help explain why you are wrong

[redgunamo]

Saying you think they will challenge but won't win it is a total oxymoron. If you think they'll challenge, by definition it means you think there's no reason why they can't win it.

I'm not sure. After all, Leicester City themselves were widely felt to be putting up a decent challenge, although nobody thought they would actually win it until they actually did.

[Peter]

I'm not sure. After all, Leicester City themselves were widely felt to be putting up a decent challenge, although nobody thought they would actually win it until they actually did.

Right, but it was only once they had won it that we knew they had challenged for it.

[redgunamo]

Right, but it was only once they had won it that we knew they had challenged for it.

lol.