Open-topped bus parade on the 28th :cloud9:

[Sir C]

You on the gear, red? The FA Cup is always more important than some quasi 4th place trophy nonsense.

Always.

Might I make so bold as to clarify something?

The 'fourth place trophy' idea with which so many like to bash our greatest ever manager stems from a perfectly reasonable comment. He said that fourth place was 'like a trophy', which, indeed, it is, since every club achieving CL qualification celebrates it as a success.

'Like a trophy'. Not, 'is a trophy'. 'Like a trophy.'

It takes either an incredibly lazy, or incredibly vindictive mindset to continually beat Arsene around the head by warping a perfectly reasonable comment.

Carry on.

[redgunamo]

Might I make so bold as to clarify something?

The 'fourth place trophy' idea with which so many like to bash our greatest ever manager stems from a perfectly reasonable comment. He said that fourth place was 'like a trophy', which, indeed, it is, since every club achieving CL qualification celebrates it as a success.

'Like a trophy'. Not, 'is a trophy'. 'Like a trophy.'

It takes either an incredibly lazy, or incredibly vindictive mindset to continually beat Arsene around the head by warping a perfectly reasonable comment.

Carry on.

Footballistically, it's *******s though. I'm convinced He wishes He'd never said it, especially in front of the men.

[Sir C]

Footballistically, it's *******s though. I'm convinced He wishes He'd never said it, especially in front of the men.

No it's not. It's an absolutely valid point.

[redgunamo]

No it's not. It's an absolutely valid point.

Yes, of course it's a valid point. Wenger was simply wrong to make it, that's all.

It gave people the wrong idea and accomplished nothing except, as you say, giving people like me a stick with which to beat Him. Most importantly though, I'd be prepared to argue it poisoned the players too, both ones we have and ones we don't. Especially when taken in conjunction with the "financial doping" comments. After all, who doesn't want to be financially doped? I know I do

The message was understood as, If you want to win the league or the European Cup and make loads more money, then do not join the Arsenal.

[Monty92]

Footballistically, it's *******s though. I'm convinced He wishes He'd never said it, especially in front of the men.

He's repeated it since

[redgunamo]

He's repeated it since

Sure. Having said it once, He's committed to it. Even more so with the way things have gone.

[World's End Stella]

Might I make so bold as to clarify something?

The 'fourth place trophy' idea with which so many like to bash our greatest ever manager stems from a perfectly reasonable comment. He said that fourth place was 'like a trophy', which, indeed, it is, since every club achieving CL qualification celebrates it as a success.

'Like a trophy'. Not, 'is a trophy'. 'Like a trophy.'

It takes either an incredibly lazy, or incredibly vindictive mindset to continually beat Arsene around the head by warping a perfectly reasonable comment.

Carry on.

Certainly you can clarify it, and you have every right to hold that view, of course.

And others have every right to disagree. And those who disagree would argue that it is nothing like a trophy at all and shouldn't in any way be celebrated as such. I would be one of those people and my view has nothing to do with my attitude towards Wenger, it has everything to do with much of what I consider to be wrong about modern day football.

Avoiding relegation is celebrated as a success as well. Is that like a trophy? I think not.

[Monty92]

Certainly you can clarify it, and you have every right to hold that view, of course.

And others have every right to disagree. And those who disagree would argue that it is nothing like a trophy at all and shouldn't in any way be celebrated as such. I would be one of those people and my view has nothing to do with my attitude towards Wenger, it has everything to do with much of what I consider to be wrong about modern day football.

Avoiding relegation is celebrated as a success as well. Is that like a trophy? I think not.

If, on Sunday (having won tonight), we find ourselves ahead against Everton and in the last moments news filters through that Boro have scored an unlikely equaliser at Anfield, how would you describe the ensuing scenes you may be likely to witness around The Emirates?

[World's End Stella]

If, on Sunday (having won tonight), we find ourselves ahead against Everton and in the last moments news filters through that Boro have scored an unlikely equaliser at Anfield, how would you describe the ensuing scenes you may be likely to witness around The Emirates?

I would expect a fairly subdued celebration amongst a crowd struggling to fill the stadium.

They're bored with this game, you see.

[Sir C]

Certainly you can clarify it, and you have every right to hold that view, of course.

And others have every right to disagree. And those who disagree would argue that it is nothing like a trophy at all and shouldn't in any way be celebrated as such. I would be one of those people and my view has nothing to do with my attitude towards Wenger, it has everything to do with much of what I consider to be wrong about modern day football.

Avoiding relegation is celebrated as a success as well. Is that like a trophy? I think not.

The problem with your argument here isn't so much that it's bóllocks, although clearly it is, it's that you don't believe it for a second.