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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
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    Of course. it's all just sh*thousery and banter.

    As a society we all acknowledge that football fans operate under entirely different social rules once they step inside a stadium. I don't see why we should tolerate tens of thousands of fans calling a footballer a **** for having dared to move club or acquire a reputation for cheating, but then clutch our pearls if we call them a black ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Of course. it's all just sh*thousery and banter.

    As a society we all acknowledge that football fans operate under entirely different social rules once they step inside a stadium. I don't see why we should tolerate tens of thousands of fans calling a footballer a **** for having dared to move club or acquire a reputation for cheating, but then clutch our pearls if we call them a black ****
    I was in a pub quiz the other day where we got extra points for our offensive team name: Madeleine McCan't.

    There are boundaries of what is acceptable and what isn't. Laughing at the rape and murder of a small girl is apparently ok. Racism not so.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I was in a pub quiz the other day where we got extra points for our offensive team name: Madeleine McCan't.

    There are boundaries of what is acceptable and what isn't. Laughing at the rape and murder of a small girl is apparently ok. Racism not so.
    Yes, although whether or not we find humour in that kind of stuff is is heavily nuanced and context-dependent, even within the narrow genre of kiddie rape and murder.

    I think the reason Maddie is such a comedy goldmine is because of the whole circus surrounding the case, and the fact that her white middle class parents blatantly killed her, which *is* inherently funny.

    There are other cases where small children were brutally murdered that you'd struggle to find any humour in.

    You don't hear any jokes about Jamie Bulger, for example.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I was in a pub quiz the other day where we got extra points for our offensive team name: Madeleine McCan't.

    There are boundaries of what is acceptable and what isn't. Laughing at the rape and murder of a small girl is apparently ok. Racism not so.
    Well racism affects everyone of that race , laughing about an individual doesn't...that would be my penguin book of racism level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Well racism affects everyone of that race , laughing about an individual doesn't...that would be my penguin book of racism level
    Yes, of course it is far worse.

    I hadn't realised that they were actual neo-nazis, of the sort that our government supports in Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Yes, of course it is far worse.

    I hadn't realised that they were actual neo-nazis, of the sort that our government supports in Ukraine.
    I don't understand why everyone seems so revolted by 'neo-Nazis', whilst Socialists can merrily wave red flags and sing the Internazionale without anyone mentioning the pesky detail of 100 million victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I don't understand why everyone seems so revolted by 'neo-Nazis', whilst Socialists can merrily wave red flags and sing the Internazionale without anyone mentioning the pesky detail of 100 million victims.
    Normal rules don't apply to the left, sc. See antifa
    “Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Normal rules don't apply to the left, sc. See antifa
    It's the hypocrisy that I find unbelievable. Everyone wets their knickers because some random Bulgarians made a Nazi salute - meanwhile, Comrade McDonnell is an actual self-confessed Marxist... and daft ****s are prepared to vote for him.

    It's bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    I don't understand why everyone seems so revolted by 'neo-Nazis', whilst Socialists can merrily wave red flags and sing the Internazionale without anyone mentioning the pesky detail of 100 million victims.
    This is what's known in some quarters as 'Whataboutery', I gather.

    Besides, there have been left-wing governments who have not been run by Stalin, and not behaved remotely like him, however much they are demonised, and however much the oligarchs are furious that the wealth they nicked from the poor is redistributed to the poor.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    This is what's known in some quarters as 'Whataboutery', I gather.

    Besides, there have been left-wing governments who have not been run by Stalin, and not behaved remotely like him, however much they are demonised, and however much the oligarchs are furious that the wealth they nicked from the poor is redistributed to the poor.
    That's right, those magnificent shining examples of the gentle loving nature of socialists, Mao, Pol Pot, Uncle Ho, dear Nicolae in Romania, cuddly Enver who made Albania such a paradise of redistributed wealth - and let's not forget our old chum Castro, who cleverly reduced and entire population to penury and locked them in so they had to try to escape on home-made rafts.

    Were all these the wrong type of socialism?

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