So are we just going to sit back and accept our residential roads being made

[Sir C]

undriveable by 20mph speed limits?

I'd rather risk my own children being mowed down by someone driving at 30-40mph than face the excrutiating agony of having to crawl along at such a ridiculous speed.

Well we've sat back and accepted all the other petty infringements on our liberty over the last 70 years of socialism, so I don't see why we'd start objecting now.

First they decided you can't drive after a few sherbets. Then it was mandatory seat belts. Next thing, a teacher isn't allowed to discipline a child. Fancy a cigarette? You can't, it's banned. State the truth that a man is a man even if he's wearing a frock? Verboten.

Hell in a handcart, and so on.

[Pat Vegas]

Well we've sat back and accepted all the other petty infringements on our liberty over the last 70 years of socialism, so I don't see why we'd start objecting now.

First they decided you can't drive after a few sherbets. Then it was mandatory seat belts. Next thing, a teacher isn't allowed to discipline a child. Fancy a cigarette? You can't, it's banned. State the truth that a man is a man even if he's wearing a frock? Verboten.

Hell in a handcart, and so on.

Oh you can buy a cigarette. You just have to be punished for doing so by paying ridiculous prices and looking at stupid photos in a plain box kept being big metal doors in a shop.

not long ago you could be 16 and smoke.