Are the Tories now the party of the working class?

[redgunamo]

Yes, she was obviously trying to exaggerate the extent to which the racist red-neck demographic made up Trump's supporter base in order to taint those considering voting for him by association.

It massively, massively back-fired, but this was at a time where all of us - you and I included - felt that the Trump brand was too toxic for him to be elected. And all she was trying to do was capitalise on that same instinct by dialling up the "you can't vote for him - lots of his supporters are bigots" sentiment.

By describing them, and presumably even her own husband, as racist rednecks? Rubbish strategery, imo. And worse instincts.

The whole Tea Party thing from a year or two back showed that the Donald wouldn't really be considered "toxic" at all, only to urban trendies.

[Monty92]

By describing them, and presumably even her own husband, as racist rednecks? Rubbish strategery, imo. And worse instincts.

The whole Tea Party thing from a year or two back showed that the Donald wouldn't really be considered "toxic" at all, only to urban trendies.

But it's hard to know its effectiveness as a strategy. It may well be that had she not chosen that method of attack, she would have lost by a bigger margin. It seems entirely plausible to me that many people were dissuaded from voting for Trump because they didn't want to be tainted by association with the more "deplorable" factions of his supporter base.

[redgunamo]

But it's hard to know its effectiveness as a strategy. It may well be that had she not chosen that method of attack, she would have lost by a bigger margin. It seems entirely plausible to me that many people were dissuaded from voting for Trump because they didn't want to be tainted by association with the more "deplorable" factions of his supporter base.

OK. But this husband of hers is a fairly popular former president so to think of him, his sort and, by extension, his supporters that way is madness whichever way you spin it. And it also helped to explain why she didn't really campaign much amongst them; she obviously felt they were all racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobes.

As I tried to tell you people during the campaign, it's always dangerous to depict activists as truly representative of the demographic group to which they belong.