Because May's deal keeps the GB and NI in the Customs Union.Originally Posted by SWv2
Because May's deal keeps the GB and NI in the Customs Union.
Okay, fair enough.
I thought the whole point was to leave it.
We're not allowed to, apparently. Because what we vote for is irrelevant. Apparently.
1. The vote said Leave the EU, it said nothing about the CU or SM.
2. Not one of the Leave campaigns said we would have no deal. They all promised the easiest, cake and eat it deal in history. However, Parl should never have countenanced a referendum which it couldn't enact. As a deal required the consent of the EU as well as parl, there was no way a vote could specify any deal, unless the EU and the UK had agreed the future arrangements before the vote.
So we are, in effect, enacting the vote which was a choice between Remain and whatever deal the UK PM returns with which commands the support of Parl.
We should have had a remain vs no deal vote 2-3 years ago. Given we didn't we should have one now. Have May's deal (and Norway, too, if you want) on the first ballot and then use 2nd and 3rd prefs to get a winner.
The only possible argument against this is from Brexiters who haven't changed their mind, and don't think others should be allowed to. Or Brexiters who wanted no deal when they vote leave and therefore think everyone else should have done.
Speaking generally, I think the below lists the things we like and dislike as a country.
Like
Customs Union/Free trade/Single market
Visa-less travel
Dislike
Free movement of people
Having to give lots of money to the likes of Greece and Ireland
Being told by Brussels what to do
Is this not slightly contradictory as in you want to have it but you don't want others to have it?
Sort of, but not exactly. We have no problem with foreign folk coming over for a holiday, spending some money & then returned from whence they came. We do have a problem with foreign folk coming here to settle.
We do not ask for the right to settle within the EU. What we ask is that we can still visit Tuscany/Bordeaux/Corsica etc without having to go through the palava of obtaining a visa.
So because northern plebs are too thick to go and live in a foreign country, I shouldn't be allowed to?
Why the fück do people want to live here all the time when most of the rest of Europe is far more civilised?
If her deal were to go through, you mean. And not only does it keep us in the CU while we negotiate our exit terms, during that period we get all the benefit of being in the EU without having to pay them any money, having control of our borders and being able to deviate from their regulations in all but a few areas.
Yet somehow this is a horrible deal and a travesty and May is a cund etc etc etc
Honestly, you couldn't make some of these halfwits up if you tried.
I think that May got most of what she asked for, tbh. A negotiation is a compromise and given that nobody wanted a hard/no-deal Brexit, the EU were hardly going to bend over and give May everything she asked for.
She's damned if she does and damned if she does. I, for one, admire her resilience.
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