How much money do you reckon we could get back

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Because they gave him a two year deal last season when, lets face it, what has happened this season was always very likely to happen. We knew we had major problems around Sanchez and Ozil, we knew Liverpool, Spurs and United were all improving.

This season cant have come as a major surprise to them, we all knew it was going to be tough. THey are not going to sack him. Clearly they are putting things in place behind the scenes for when he does go so we have some hope of him leaving next summer. THe only way I see him leaving this summer is if he walks and again....he just isnt going to.

Unless they have a detailed plot around who they are bringing in and Wenger is willingly involved in the timing of it. I dont think that is true though....

So you think they gave him the new contract expecting to be about 15 points worse off? Come off it. They gave it to him because there was no structure in place for a successor and because he narrowly missed out on 4th and won a trophy. It's now the complete opposite in that we're miles away from 4th and the structure to replace him is there.

[Peter]

So you think they gave him the new contract expecting to be about 15 points worse off? Come off it. They gave it to him because there was no structure in place for a successor and because he narrowly missed out on 4th and won a trophy. It's now the complete opposite in that we're miles away from 4th and the structure to replace him is there.

If they thought this season was going to be any better than last then they are not the sort of people I want hiring our next manager. I said at the time that he was mental to sign a new deal and that the next two years were going to be even harder.

They may not have expected it to be this bad but they must have expected that we would struggle to finish in the top four. At this stage, we could still win the Europa League, he has signed two decent players etc etc......

You can dress up the two previous seasons however you like but it was obvious to any **** that we were getting steadily worse and that has continued this year. THere is no grand departure here, just the same themes accentuated by the fact that we effectively gave up on the top four months ago. Even at this point I could fabricate grounds for optimism, as above....

I just genuinely dont believe they have the guts to sack him.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

If they thought this season was going to be any better than last then they are not the sort of people I want hiring our next manager. I said at the time that he was mental to sign a new deal and that the next two years were going to be even harder.

They may not have expected it to be this bad but they must have expected that we would struggle to finish in the top four. At this stage, we could still win the Europa League, he has signed two decent players etc etc......

You can dress up the two previous seasons however you like but it was obvious to any **** that we were getting steadily worse and that has continued this year. THere is no grand departure here, just the same themes accentuated by the fact that we effectively gave up on the top four months ago. Even at this point I could fabricate grounds for optimism, as above....

I just genuinely dont believe they have the guts to sack him.

They probably thought if we got around 75 points again it would be close to getting 4th. Instead we’ll be lucky to get 60 and the 4th placed team will probably have 80. This is the thing now. Previously 70-75 (sometimes even lower) got you 4th place but now you’re looking at 80 points. How often has he get 80 points in his 22 years?