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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Arsenal do business the right way.

    or so I have been told
    To be fair, Dortmund are trying to pull our pants down. 58m for a 29 year old???!

    I'm glad we're telling them that it's 50m or we walk away.

    They'll accept 50m on deadline day and we'll then change the offer to 45m.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    To be fair, Dortmund are trying to pull our pants down. 58m for a 29 year old???!

    I'm glad we're telling them that it's 50m or we walk away.

    They'll accept 50m on deadline day and we'll then change the offer to 45m.
    How old in Sanchez? And what price would he have been if we hadn't ****ed up the contract situation.

    PEA is 28
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    To be fair, Dortmund are trying to pull our pants down. 58m for a 29 year old???!

    I'm glad we're telling them that it's 50m or we walk away.

    They'll accept 50m on deadline day and we'll then change the offer to 45m.
    Sanchez. £60m, last August.

    Maybe he was 28 then which makes it okay?

    We want to buy. They don’t need to sell. Kind of how football transfers work.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    To be fair, Dortmund are trying to pull our pants down. 58m for a 29 year old???!

    I'm glad we're telling them that it's 50m or we walk away.

    They'll accept 50m on deadline day and we'll then change the offer to 45m.
    Do they really want him or not? seems a lot of money for a take it or leave it offer. We ****ed about plenty of times in the past and annoyed clubs. :Saurez:
    So if Arsenal are in the market for this type of player leaving it to deadline day is a good idea?

    Plus Dortmund need to bring in a player if they sell him. If Giroud isn't included in the deal they won't want to sell him last second.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Do they really want him or not? seems a lot of money for a take it or leave it offer. We ****ed about plenty of times in the past and annoyed clubs. :Saurez:
    So if Arsenal are in the market for this type of player leaving it to deadline day is a good idea?

    Plus Dortmund need to bring in a player if they sell him. If Giroud isn't included in the deal they won't want to sell him last second.
    Well that’s why we’ll probably miss out. I’d like us to sign him but think Evans is more important. Not the end of the world If we do miss out.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Do they really want him or not? seems a lot of money for a take it or leave it offer. We ****ed about plenty of times in the past and annoyed clubs. :Saurez:
    The Suarez thing is a myth. A release clause gets triggered by a fixed sum, and is not a bid. If the player wants to go to the club waving the monies, he goes, without a transfer fee negotiation but Suarez didn't.

    Quite why the myth about Arsenal 'incompetence' and 'insults' persists is strange.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    The Suarez thing is a myth. A release clause gets triggered by a fixed sum, and is not a bid. If the player wants to go to the club waving the monies, he goes, without a transfer fee negotiation but Suarez didn't.

    Quite why the myth about Arsenal 'incompetence' and 'insults' persists is strange.
    There have been a few 'failed' bids in recent years for different players. a lot of it may be rubbish.

    Though allowing Sanchez and Ozil going into this season in their last year of a contract is a bit bad.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    There have been a few 'failed' bids in recent years for different players. a lot of it may be rubbish.

    Though allowing Sanchez and Ozil going into this season in their last year of a contract is a bit bad.
    They are two very different situations though.... with those two players you have individuals who can do a lot better than. Being in the Europa League and can earn a lot more elsewhere. It is always going to be difficult to get players in that situation to sign on again.

    Curious decision to let them both remain last summer but there you go...

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    They are two very different situations though.... with those two players you have individuals who can do a lot better than. Being in the Europa League and can earn a lot more elsewhere. It is always going to be difficult to get players in that situation to sign on again.

    Curious decision to let them both remain last summer but there you go...
    We did try to sell one but messed it up.

    Which in turn goes back to Ash's question about how or why we are often referenced with "incompetence" in the transfer area.

    I do still think there is reputational damage in this respect from the Suarez issue though ultimately (as Ash has said) the fundamental issue there was that L Suarez had no desire to join us.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    We did try to sell one but messed it up.

    Which in turn goes back to Ash's question about how or why we are often referenced with "incompetence" in the transfer area.

    I do still think there is reputational damage in this respect from the Suarez issue though ultimately (as Ash has said) the fundamental issue there was that L Suarez had no desire to join us.
    I think that is as much to do with what we dont do. THe summer we only signed Cech, the next summer where it dragged on for months before we signed Mustafi and Perez (a curious move all on its own). THe summer we forgot to sign a centre back, the millions of summers where we didnt strengthen our midfield.

    It isnt necessarily incompetence but I do think some of our behaviour in the market over the last five years has been pretty difficult to understand from outside.

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