It's all a matter of opinions isn't it... imho the policies Labour came up with did more to help parents with young kids, Uni students and the old and disabled. the fact the Tory party look like ditching a lot of policies makes you think they weren't good in the first placeOriginally Posted by IUFG
Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar
You mean you don't support the nationalization of the railroads, the postal service and the energy industry, IUFG? Don't you remember the nirvana that was the 70s when those industries provided a superb service at virtually no cost to the taxpayer? I bet you also think that high tax/spend plans might have a flaw especially when they don't add up.
You fool.
Hmmm. Labour won Kensington. The richest constituency in the UK.
EDIT: Of course Labour voters are damned whether they have money or not.
Did they, by God?!
Urgent new hobby alert for whoever the conservative candidate was then. And the party leader too, just to be on the safe side.
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"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
London innit. They voted 60% to Remain and now they're getting their own back. That and the students in London jumping all over Comrade Corbyn's handouts pretty much explains the entire election.
But on the upside, here comes a nice, soft Brexit.
If they wanted to vote remain they should have voted Lib Dem.London innit. They voted 60% to Remain and now they're getting their own back. That and the students in London jumping all over Comrade Corbyn's handouts pretty much explains the entire election.
But on the upside, here comes a nice, soft Brexit.
Soft Brexit = Fake Brexit.
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Yes, I agree but that's exactly what is about to happen, I think.
The smug Leavers are about to be seriously disappointed. I'd be surprised if it looks very different from Remain, really. But that's modern politics, it's all about the here and now.
Well, I don't consider myself as smug but I am more than disappointed. The election campaigns were fought on the basis of 'Brexit is settled', and saw UKIP's vote collapse to nothing, from a fairly substantial national share, and to the benefit of the two main parties. Over 80% of people voted for parties who said they would leave the single market.
Now the election is over, May's battering is being used as an excuse for the dominant political and media classes to do what they've wanted ever since the referendum - to stop Brexit. The electorate at large hasn't voted against Brexit in this election (even though some people will have done), they have voted on all the basis of various reasons.
If this scenario plays out as we imagine, the majority who voted Leave will have been betrayed. UKIP will be back in five years when Britain is still subject to undemocratic and unnacountable external rule, still has no control over its borders, and still subsidises other countries from which it gets little (except cheap labour which is good for the wealthy and bad for the less wealthy).
Funnily enough I put the same question to someone the other day but in reverse. He was whining about losing £200 a month under Corbyn's tax hike and that he couldn't afford it as his kids were off to university soon. I pointed out that a Corbyn government would save his kids 27 grand each over their studies. Silence....I don't mind them coming out in droves because of the Corbyn offerings, we are allowed to be greedy at times and that is democracy, after all.
It's the fact that they couldn't be bothered to do the same last summer that irritates me. It shows an astonishing lack of foresight. I also find myself wondering what % of these same students have parents who would be hammered by Corbyn's tax changes and whether or not they've considered that and the impact it will ultimately have on them.
Again, a lack for foresight. Or maybe they're all just thick nowadays.
He was wrong about the tax anyway. He earns 82 grand, the rise would have cost him pennies. So, selfish and thick, as you said.
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